Re: Emacspeak with eSpeak losing speech on Vinux 4

[John Joseph Morgan <johnjosephmorgan@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

How can I tell if a normal user has sufficient privileges?
I used to do something under /dev/audio, but I can't remember what.
Thanks,
-j
On May 10, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> I've never tried running as root with espeak or emacs, so can't comment
> on differences. Very bad idea to run as root and should not be
> necessary. Similar to always having your windows login running with
> admin privs. You will expose yourself to malware and virus issues
> (anyone who tells you Linux and OSX doesn't have malware or viruses is
> talking rubbish). 
> 
> If you are seeing a difference between stability running as root
> compared to a normal user, it might be that the normal user does not
> have the necessary permissions to do things like use the real-time
> scheduler which pulseaudio needs. However, I've not seen linux systems
> having this problem for quite a few years now, so would be surprised. 
> 
> I run both gnome orca and emacspeak with espeak on one system, gnome
> orca and emacspeak with outloud on another and emacspeak with just
> espeak on a 3rd system. All are 64 bit. I've not noticed any significant
> difference between the systems with respect to espeak. On all systems
> using espeak, espeak is extremely stable with orca and speech dispatcher
> and unstable with emacspeak. I also find espeak is very stable using
> speechd-el. 
> 
> Tim
> On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 19:17 -0400, John Joseph Morgan wrote:
>> I see this too with espeak. It seems to go away when I run emacspeak with espeak under the root user.
>> I have gnome started with orca at boot up. Is gnome and orca interfering somehow with a non-root user's use of espeak?
>> John
>> 
>> On May 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> You can just use the dmesg command in a terminal. 
>>> 
>>> I also see the regular loss of speech with espeak. I have never been
>>> able to track down the issue, though I tend to get distracted with other
>>> things when I try. I don't see this crashing with speechd or with espeak
>>> and speech-dispatcher generally. It is limited to the emacspeak espeak
>>> interface. 
>>> 
>>> I find disabling character echo can help a bit. Otherwise, I've just
>>> gotten use to hitting C-e C-s to restart espeak when it stops
>>> responding. 
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that I don't see this issue with the experiments I've
>>> done that don't use tcl as the interface language. So it could be that
>>> the problem is in the tcl layer, but this is just more guesswork.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:50 +1000, Jason White wrote:
>>>> Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't see this file on this system. It's a Ubuntu based system.
>>>> 
>>>> Ubuntu keeps diverging from every other Linux distribution in a growing
>>>> variety of ways.
>>>> 
>>>> Try /var/log/syslog. I don't have an Ubuntu-based system so I'm guessing here.
>>>> 
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