Re: ubuntu needs attention

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

It's kind of a nit, but vinux included Emacspeak in the 32-bit version 
of vinux 3.1 (Ubuntu 11.04). It was on the DVD image though and not the 
CD image. It wasn't included on the 64-bit image or any other version of 
vinux because the developer of Vinux at the time, who was not an 
Emacspeak user, had problems getting Emacspeak working with the 64-bit 
images and subsequent versions of Vinux. I don't recall the issue of 
space coming up, except for the CD image, but I don't think Emacs and 
Emacspeak was ever considered for the CD image. The current developer of 
vinux is also not an Emacspeak user, and someone would have to put the 
effort into having Emacspeak packaged for it to be included in future 
versions of vinux.

On 09/27/2013 07:41 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
> Yeah, Ubuntu's had that version of Emacspeak for years and years now.  It never ever gets updated.  If you want a current version of Emacspeak to run on your Ubuntu installation, you will have to do it from source.  I've posted numerous times on the Ubuntu Accessibility List to get Emacspeak's deb package updated to the current version but the response is always "Not enough people use it to justify the time spent on keeping the package up to date."  The Vinux project got as far as Emacspeak 32 in Ubuntu 10.04 and even included it on the installation .iso cd for a time but it was later dropped in favor of things that got more users since Emacspeak learning curve is very steep compared to what's out there these days for blind people to get work done on Linux.  I tried addressing this by creating a small tutorial to give people a head start using modern screen readers as the common ground and then working from there.  This generated some interest at first but, it didn't last.  I guess 
my point is, if you want Ubuntu's Emacspeak to be up to date, either install from source or, if you have the time and inclination, find out how to build Ubuntu deb packages and become its maintainer.
> Sorry you are having such a bad time of it on there,
> Alex M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarek Czekalski [mailto:jarekczek@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:37 PM
> To: emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: ubuntu needs attention
>
> Hi guys
>
> I have a problem with current ubuntu. It contains emacspeak 29, on which I cannot use emacspeak with espeak server. This is what I get after "tclsh espeak":
>
> can not find channel named "file0"
>       while executing
> "fconfigure file0 -encoding utf-8"
>       (file "servers/espeak" line 502)
>
> It kind of fits the previous problem, that I couldn't see espeak among the speech servers to choose from.
>
> I remember seeing the same message on stable debian. Now when I use debian jessie (unstable), this message is gone and emacspeak is working fine. So it seems like emacspeak should be upgraded on ubuntu. Currently it is at version 29, even in "saucy" ubuntu, which I guess is unstable.
>
> Jarek
>
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