Hi, I think it is a matter of inclination more than a matter of expertise. A lot of these steps, when I look at them as you have listed them here, can be automated perfectly easily. Trouble is mainly caused by the distro-specific espeak packages and tcl. I am not an expert at this but from my point of view it doesn't look too difficult to make distro-specific packages (.deb, .rpm) for this and write an install script that automates pretty much the whole deal. I would do it, but I am currently swamped with other stuff and just don't have the time and resources to learn and research Bash scripting and distro package maintenance ... Regards, Florian 2014-09-16 0:16 GMT+02:00, Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > Yes, it's a royal pain to get working. Basically, here's what you have to > do: > > 1. Get the source via svn: > $ svn co http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk emacspeak > 2. Get the espeak development library packages. (This is distro-specific > so, do some digging) > 3. Get tcl8.4. > 4. cd into the emacspeak directory and as root type make config > 5. Type make emacspeak as root. > 6. cd into the servers directory and find the linux-espeak directory and cd > into it. > 7. Now, do a make; make install either as sudo or root. > 8. Issue the following environment variable command: > Export DTK_PROGRAM=espeak > 9. nano /usr/bin/emacspeak > 10. Arrow down to bottom of the file and get that -q out of there. Arrow up > to the line referring to emacs in unary mode and put a hash in front of it > to coment out. Ctrl x and save. > > After all that, type emacspeak at a command line prompt and all should be > well. Those of you shouting and hollering that it shouldn't be this hard > are right but, trouble is, no one seems to either have the expertise or > inclination to make it easier. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kendell clark [mailto:coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:03 PM > To: Florian Beijers; emacspeak list > Subject: Re: Emacspeak installation information > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > hi > Here, here. I run into this issue constantly. I've actually gotten emacspeak > working, kind of, on arch. The pckage build is unmaintained, and I have to > modify the build script just to get it to build. Then tclx builds empty > binaries, and I have to try to remember what I did to get it working. Then I > can't get daisy mode to work ... and the cycle repeats. Once I actually get > into emacspeak and get the stuff working, it's phenomenal. The eloquence > support is much g better than espeak, but I guess that'll get fixed > eventually. Emacspeak is a fantastic concept ... If it just worked instead > of returning with process speaker not working, that's because of tclx > screwing up, by the way. We need good docs, and we need maintainers of the > various distro's emacspeak packages. > Thanks > Kendell clark > > On 09/15/2014 04:48 PM, Florian Beijers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just finished reading through the Emacspeak at 20 article and >> entered what I have dubbed my "Emacspeak loop" again. This basically >> consists of me wanting to try Emacspeak, building a vm of the latest >> blind-friendly Linux distro out there to save time, downloading the >> latest emacspeak, trying to set it up, failing, getting frustrated and >> giving up. It has become a trend for me to wonder what strange, >> unclear error will jump out at me next when I try to configure and >> build Emacspeak. The installation howto that is available appears to >> last have been updated about 12 years ago and scraping together bits >> and pieces from this list , as well as other blogs, sometimes help me >> enough to actually get a semi-stable instance of Emacspeak going if >> I'm lucky. Now don't get me wrong, I really like the concept Emacspeak >> is trying to portray. I am a computer science student myself and aim >> for this to be my chosen career path. I'd like Emacspeak to be a part >> of that, but if I keep having to work a day or more to make the system >> boot up, let alone run smoothly, I am wondering where things are going >> wrong. >> Shouldn't we take a bit of time to make this part of the emacspeak >> experience a little more user-friendly? Think of writing up accurate >> and contemporary installation docs? Perhaps change the installation >> script so it actually looks for what speech system is currently being >> used rather than making the user manually configure this, just to name >> an example? I like the configurability Emacspeak provides. It gives >> you the opportunity to change everything to your liking, but again, >> this is no use to anybody if they can't get the system to work. I've >> recommended Emacspeak to others in the past and more often than notwas >> met with a reply sounding something like "Hmm ...yeah I've heard of it >> and played around with it, but I never really got it to work ..." . I >> think this is a shame. The more users Emacspeak has the better it can >> become. Configurability is good, but sometimes it's also nice to have >> a way to quickly get things to work. I just thought of something while >> writing this long email, could vagrant not offer a solution here? >> Offer pre-made linux VM's where Emacspeak is already configured? I'm >> just throwing ideas out there, because I really think this needs to be >> improved. >> >> Regards, Florian >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the >> emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a >> subject of "unsubscribe" or "help". >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUF2IHAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTduiUP/0i/zjIiOuBmzXLnBf80bUw0 > O3OZbi2HcWiR1QB6Wn07WpDq4guR3DRm8AyRN676d2zg+KeiN8v1SUjiIQ6fWsWT > kX6cbm0C2UaSMg+jdeSX6P7CVeXNIzF4Xe//0Lw8ChJKxIUrEFftSzoDgD/hNVOY > a9Barp4aaDx9vfI59IrS6GMcRIwqJTzJGklcHpoyA3g04ExuIXipzJjuq3YAdNdI > kVdav+Vb12zS8UEEbmbouTqg8u/3sa6nSjOi2BXB2KpH+f6ibO7JwMKHLmaD54nr > dSS8YmDlXuezBviuaC9+nJ3LotpHY7Q81iJPoToywckU2uwecdEMRLu90eD43rBA > ndedqHm3RXp6vqq3J2aJoIaVBjQH8a8cw75RRMoy85iNqBoA+C6vegshXLGBgo3n > bNEV0ZcVVW1VtZeBSKMTQFjL5GN4i+tWepxRcrjspvsXZ/WN+IbkY/3J8NFDTYH7 > h0u4aGqNJdYeyS2TYzfhQnA/VszI4C8YTGcADZrdax1NBNOR0BEwyn9ErT3pKUDP > /c9xSYaQcNzZIgOFVPwNRCdKY5Cym7Jc9/Gp6Zp+lQFB0svLfFna9q5BVr9RbK0c > rPIzLrUuLwqDvXg5R4hYHwTcN5hE1DZiaxg0J4LTP1qnQHdgYrQiBzOPUJsQ4DQs > IMqfG3ZtTMzIFQsOqZFN > =lZ3I > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the > emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject > of "unsubscribe" or "help". > > >
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