Re: [emacspeak The Complete Audio Desktop] Leveraging Web 2.0 Design Patterns For...

[Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

It seems my information was out of date. According to the bookshare site,
the previous limited access was increased in 2006 and now around 15% of the
books offered by bookshare can be accessed by international users. I
believe the O'Reilly books are included in that. 

I've contacted bookshare to find out what the situation is for providing
proof of disability as a non-US resident. They are willing to accept the letter I have from
my opthamologist as an image file as long as it is signed and makes it
clear they are a qualified professional. 

Tim

> that's interesting, I wasn't aware of the situation. OReilly
> explicitly stopped their earlier informal arrangement saying
> "bookshare will handle it"
> 
> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>     Tim> Hi Raman, just thought I'd mention that bookshare isn't
>     Tim> that useful to non US residents. Unless it has changed
>     Tim> since the last time I looked, non-US residents can only
>     Tim> get access to material that is past copyright (i.e. old
>     Tim> classics) and some others with licenses etc that wil
>     Tim> allow it, such as creative commons.
>     Tim> 
>     Tim> Unfortunately, the absolutely wonderful support we use
>     Tim> to get from O'Reilly doesn't seem to exist anymore where
>     Tim> we could get electronic text versions just by asking -
>     Tim> at least not for me. All the e-mails I've sent over the
>     Tim> last few years have not been responded to at all - not
>     Tim> even to tell me the previous arrangement is no longer
>     Tim> available. I have even tried from multiple different
>     Tim> addresses in case my address was being
>     Tim> blocked/blacklisted etc. I even tried an e-mail directly
>     Tim> to Tim O'Reilly, but got no response. My guess is that
>     Tim> now they hav Safari, they want us to use that, which is
>     Tim> what I've been doing, but its not exactly cheap. They do
>     Tim> have a special portal that is supposed to be more
>     Tim> accessible than their main one, but to be honest, I've
>     Tim> found them both pretty difficult to access from Linux
>     Tim> and generally end up using window-eyes amd Internet
>     Tim> Explorer (sssh, don't tell anyone). I tend to use the
>     Tim> PDF tokens you get and download PDF chapters of the
>     Tim> books I'm interested in. I then find converting them to
>     Tim> text and reading from within emacs is not too bad once
>     Tim> you do a bit of clean-up to remove the copyright and
>     Tim> user details O'Reilly adds as page footers to the PDF.
>     Tim> 
>     Tim> Still, its a pity the old arrangement is no longer
>     Tim> available. I use to very much praise O'Reilly for their
>     Tim> support and even purchased things like the CD bookshelf
>     Tim> series to provide some support. I guess now they are
>     Tim> just geting too big and have lost that little extra
>     Tim> touch.
>     Tim> 
>     Tim> Tim
>     >> Jason,
>     >> 
>     >> O'Reilly has a couple of good JS references, any one of
>     >> them will do -- and they're all available from bookshare.
>     >> 
>     >> >>>>> "Jason" == Jason White <jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>     Jason> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:30:13PM -0700, T. V. Raman
>     Jason> wrote:
>     >> >> We will base this session on project >>
>     >> Google-AxsJAX. Developers should know JavaScript, but >>
>     >> session doesn't require deep AJAX hackery.
>     Jason> 
>     Jason> With apologies to Raman and others for the off-topic
>     Jason> question: What is the best, accessible, book or
>     Jason> tutorial on Javascript that I can add to my admittedly
>     Jason> already long reading list?
>     Jason> 
>     Jason> I have already followed Raman's earlier blog post and
>     Jason> installed MozRepl; I recommend it to other Emacspeak
>     Jason> users interested in Javascript and Firefox.
>     Jason> Realistically, I'm not sure when I'll find time for
>     Jason> the reading, but since Javascript is going to be such
>     Jason> a large part of Web accessibility henceforth, it's
>     Jason> time to start learning.
>     Jason> 
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>     >> -- 
>     >> Best Regards, --raman
>     >> 
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