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Re: CLI versus GUI [was "Re: The great software speech server hunt"]



Sighted people are doing all kinds of presentation work with org-mode 
under emacs.  While true org-mode didn't come into existence with dos it 
is something that can be used in either environment by now. On Sun, 29 Jan 
2012, Alex Midence wrote:

> I think I'm most inclined to agree with Christopher.  I also think that the
> GUI can be just as beneficial to a blind user as the cli.  I use both
> environments daily and prefer each for different tasks.  At work, I
> exclusively use GUI as we are a windows only operation and, without knowing
> how to use a GUI interface it would not be possible to do my job.
> To give you an example, last week, I had to teach a class on reallocating
> investments on a client's account.  It involved screenshots added to a
> PowerPoint presentation which was put up on a projector.  This is not
> something I imagine being able to do easily in a CLI.  At other times, I
> create materials consisting of short videos of me navigating thorugh screens
> on our systems demonstrating how to perform a task for my learners.  Again,
> this is something I could not imagine doing in cli. Sometimes, though, when I
> am doing some file maintenance, I may hop on to the windows cmd command line
> but that is rare.  At home, in linux, the picture is different, of course.  I
> think a blind person's best bet is to become profficient with both.  I use
> console, emacspeak and Gnome and find it no trouble at all to seamlessly move
> between them in the course of using my machine.  I guess my stance is use what
> works best for you and don't be afraid to try new ways of doing your work and,
> for Godsake don't decide what to use or not to use based on some software
> ideal.  When you are visually impaired, accessibility narrows your choices
> somewhat so, you have to be pragmatic.  That, however, is another bone of
> contention for another thread.
> 
> Alex M
> 
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> 
> > I'd be curious to take a look at this study myself, although I'm a bit
> > dubious. I've been using the GUI since 1991 when Screen Reader/2 came
> > out for OS/2, and given the proper accessibility, I think the blind can
> > get the same advantages from the GUI that the sighted get. I'm also
> > curious if this article implies that the blind are somehow disadvantaged
> > when using the GUI. IMHO, the CLI and the GUI each have there advantages
> > and disadvantages, and whether you prefer one over the other depends on
> > who you are, how you use your computer and what you'll be using it for.
> > This is true for the blind and the sighted alike.
> >
> > On 28/01/12 23:03, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > Not in my files any longer.  I think I was so shocked when I read that
> > > message I forgot to save it but did forward it to another person who is
> > > very interested in accessibility and ways it is and isn't accomplished.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 29 Jan 2012, Jason White wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> wrote:
> > > > > I have been fully blind from birth and that's why I do better with
> > > > > C.L.I. than G.U.I. too acording to a study released a few years ago
> > > > > from
> > > > > R.N.I.B.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a reference to the study mentioned above?
> > > >
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> > Christopher (CJ)
> > chaltain@gmail.com
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