Re: emacspeak without tcl8.4

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I got the DTk_PROGRAM variable pointed at 
/home/jude/git/emacspeak/servers/espeak and file espeak in that 
directory identifies it as a tcl 8.4 script.  I think it's executable 
since after having started emacspeak 35.0 up and running c-eN I get the 
news file up and no user visible changes are documented in it for 
emacspeak 35.0 .

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I've also been using emacspeak with the espeak server for over a year
> on Arch Linux now.  I'm current so dunno what version of tcl is
> running but I haven't had any problems.  I'm using emacspeak from the
> SVN package available from AUR and that places all its files in
> standard emacs lisp libraries basically.  The only problem I have had
> so far is getting capital letters to speak in a higher pitch when
> cursoring over them a letter at a time.  Pitch changes when I have
> style changes or when reading capitalized words but not individual
> letters.  That's probably an espeak thing with emacspeak though I get
> pitch changes with Orca and speakuip.
> 
> On 3/11/12, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > OK, that being the case, then setting DTK_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/espeak is
> > incorrect. You need to set DTK_PROGRAM to the espeak script within the
> > servers
> > directory of the emacspeak tree. Note that you may need to change the
> > execution
> > bits on the espeak TCL script to make it executable.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > Jude DaShiell writes:
> >  > By way of further clarification, /usr/bin/espeak and /usr/bin/eflite were
> >  > created by the espeak and eflite packages respectively.On Mon, 12 Mar
> >  > 2012, Tim Cross wrote:
> >  >
> >  > >
> >  > > Jude,
> >  > >
> >  > > be aware that both the upstream e-speak package and emacspeak come with
> >  > > executable files called espeak. You need to ensure the espeak
> > executable emacs
> >  > > and emacspeak are using is the correct one.
> >  > >
> >  > > Also note that the espeak tcl script provided by emacspeak has an
> > expectation
> >  > > that the shared library it loads is in a subdirectory relative to the
> > scripts
> >  > > working directory called linux-espeak. If the espeak script has been
> > moved to
> >  > > /usr/bin, in addition to causing conflicts with the e-speak pacakge
> > binary of
> >  > > the same name, the emacspeak espeak script will likely fail because it
> > cannot
> >  > > load the atcleci.so library. The script would need to be modified if
> > its
> >  > > location is changed from the servers directory.
> >  > >
> >  > > The EMACSPEAK_DIR should not be set to point to /usr/bin. This variable
> > is used
> >  > > by emacspeak to find lisp files, auditory icons and other auxillary
> > data files
> >  > > and should point to the root of the emacspeak directory, not to
> > /usr/bin.
> >  > >
> >  > > I have also used tcl8.5 with both outloud and espeak with no problems.
> >  > >
> >  > > Tim
> >  > >
> >  > > Jude DaShiell writes:
> >  > >  > That's the situation in archlinux which has a unique upgrade policy.
> >  The
> >  > >  > policy is that rolling upgrades take place.  There's no freezing or
> >  > >  > different versions like with Debian and for now archlinux left
> > tcl8.4 in
> >  > >  > favor of tcl8.5.  If this is an impossible build environment, for as
> > long
> >  > >  > as the necessary files from tcl8.4 remain available for download on
> > the
> >  > >  > internet it may be useful for the emacspeak project to have the
> > links to
> >  > >  > them documented.  While emacspeak was installed on this system, it
> > and
> >  > >  > espeak and eflite were all in the /usr/bin directory and I had echo
> >  > >  > $DTK_PROGRAM returning either eflite or espeak once .profile was
> > modified
> >  > >  > correctly and echo $EMACSPEAK_DIR returned /usr/bin.  Even with
> > these
> >  > >  > conditions, and with the understanding that talking arch uses espeak
> > to
> >  > >  > talk in the first place running emacspeak only got me a process
> > speaker
> >  > >  > not running message after which I had to issue the three finger
> > salute to
> >  > >  > exit the environment.  For now, emacspeak is in unsupported status
> > on
> >  > >  > archlinux and if it gets enough votes and an adopter it could move
> > into a
> >  > >  > supported status.
> >  > >  >
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