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emacspeak and w3



Good point re elpa -- that is how I now install most
packages. However I dont believe w3 or w3m  are available via the
default GNU  packages archive -- nor have I found them on the
additional marmalade package archive.
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On 5/8/12, David Tseng <davidtseng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Incidentally, after building w3 and w3m from source in the past, I now
> take the easy way out by using ELPA. It's worth a look for discovering
> and quickly trying out packages you may not have previously stumbled
> upon.
>
> On 5/7/12, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The quick and dirty 'fix' I applied for this werror is to comment out
>> the two lines from w3-speak.el which require emacspeak-fix-interactive
>> at cimpile time. This stops the make process from exiting early and
>> ensures the rest of the *.el files are compiled. It does not appear to
>> have any dramatic impact.
>>
>> Raman, I looked at your patch from your w3 and I think your right. It
>> looks like all you changes do is remove some of the excessive
>> 'padding' w3 was doing when rendering things like lists and
>> blockquote. On my system, the unmodified version would put boxquote
>> elements and lists right over on the right hand side - so much so that
>> blockquotes would end up being rendered as only one or two words per
>> line. I found that modifying the default.css file to change all margin
>> settings from 5em to 1em greatly improved things.
>>
>> One remaining and extremely frustrating issue I have is that on some
>> pages, regardless of style sheet settings, w3 renders the page with
>> white background and white foreground/text or white background and
>> light grey text. As someone who actualy finds looking at a screen with
>> a white background physically painful, this is somewhat frustrating. I
>> did look at this a while back as it was the main reason I stopped
>> ujsing w3 and from memory, it is due to a bad interaction with pages
>> that have either forced a background colour and don't set any
>> text/foreground colour and/or conflicts between css settings and 'hard
>> coded' page settings. Maybe it is time to look at it again.
>>
>> I also suspect I have to do some MIME tweaking. When using the epub
>> feature, it works with some epub titles, but fails with others. In
>> particular, seems to fail with titles generated primarily for the
>> kindle. With these titles, instead of opening the content, it asks me
>> where to same the MIME object. Need to investigate further.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2012 14:09, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> this error has been around for a long time and shouldn't affect anything.
>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bart" == Bart Bunting <bart@ursys.com.au> writes:
>>>    Bart> Raman, et al, Whilst we are discussing w3 I am seeing
>>>    Bart> issues when doing a make on the w3 source. It appears
>>>    Bart> to be related to emacspeak libraries not being found.
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> Having said that w3 itself appears to work even with
>>>    Bart> the error.
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> Is this normal?
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> I see this both under linux and on my mac.
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> Here is the make error:
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> bart@bit:~/.emacs.d/src/w3$make cd lisp && make w3
>>>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>>>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>>>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>>>    Bart> -l
>>>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>>>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-display.el
>>>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>>>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done Wrote w3-display.elc
>>>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>>>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>>>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>>>    Bart> -l
>>>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>>>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-speak.el
>>>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>>>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> In toplevel form: w3-speak.el:49:1:Error: Cannot open
>>>    Bart> load file: emacspeak-fix-interactive make[1]: ***
>>>    Bart> [w3-speak.elc] Error 1 make: *** [w3] Error 2
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> Cheers
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> Bart
>>>    Bart>
>>>    Bart> "T.V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
>>>    Bart>
>>>    >> Tim, Per your suggestion, I have checked in
>>>    >> emacspeak/tvr/tvr-w3.patch --- the patch was created from
>>>    >> my local snapshot with git diff origin/master
>>>    >>
>>>    >> after making sure that git pull -a claimed my local
>>>    >> snapshot was uptodate.
>>>    >>
>>>    >> Glancing at the patch -- I dont see anything significant
>>>    >> that should make w3 work here and not from the git repo.
>>>    >>
>>>    >> The git repo I am refering to is: git config
>>>    >> remote.origin.url git://git.sv.gnu.org/w3.git
>>>    >> --
>>>    >>
>>>    >> --
>>>    >>
>>>    >>
>>>    >> On 5/7/12, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>    >>> Hi Raman,
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> I've been attempting to get w3 working and while I've
>>>    >>> finally got it going, it was not trivial.
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> I think part of the problem is that there has been no
>>>    >>> updates to the w3 repository since May 2008. I know there
>>>    >>> has been a couple of patches from you and others to fix
>>>    >>> various bugs, but hunting them down and applying them is
>>>    >>> not easy. On this basis, I wanted to make a suggestion.
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> Would it be possible for you to do a diff against the
>>>    >>> current w3 repository code and the version of w3 you are
>>>    >>> running and put the diffs in a w3-patches directory
>>>    >>> within the emacspeak distribution. This would make it
>>>    >>> esier to anyone wanting to run w3 to apply the same
>>>    >>> patches you have been using. In addition to making it
>>>    >>> easier for users, it may help in tracking down problems
>>>    >>> as we will have a common base everyone is working from.
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> regards,
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> Tim
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> --
>>>    >>> Tim Cross
>>>    >>>
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>>> Best Regards,
>>> --raman
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Cross
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