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Re: Fixing Broken Info Pages was Emacspeak 37 Fails to Build on ArchLinux



OK, I can patch against the SVN version.  I get these same errors with
both version 37 and latest SVN or at least SVN of a week or so ago.  I
haven't messed further with this since this thread got under way.

On 3/27/13, Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OK. One thing to do would be ensure you are working on the latest SVN
> version. This will make it easier for Raman to add your patches, but more
> importantly, ensure your not fixing bugs that ahve already been fixed.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> On 27 March 2013 16:50, Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I don't remember their exact text now but it sounded like index levels
>> being messed up or some such.  Besides, Make errored out and the only way
>> I
>> was able to get things to move on was to use the '-i ' option and even
>> with
>> that, the thing only built one .info file and that was the emacspeak
>> introduction.  emacspeak.info did not even get built.  This all occured
>> in that one make step.  That's why I'm pointing fingers at this part of
>> the
>> process.  Something is broken for sure.
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Just curious. If the messages are not marked as an error or warning,
>> what makes
>> > you concerned about them and why do you believe they need to be
>> > 'fixed'?
>> >
>> > Just wondering if the problem is really about bad texinfo or is it
>> something to
>> > do with a change in how make-install works.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve Holmes writes:
>> >> My first runs over the list didn't see the word, "error" but without
>> >> the '-i' option, Make throws the elivated return code and terminates
>> >> package building.  the first two messages don't say Warning or error
>> >> so I'm after them first.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:11:55AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Raman normally requests patches go to the list.
>> >>>
>> >>> Note that I'm not sure how much you need to worry about the warnings.
>> These are
>> >>> just that, warnings and should not affect creation/compilation of the
>> info
>> >>> files. I didn't actually see any 'errors' in the list, but only ran
>> over it
>> >>> quickly, so must have missed them. The warnings I did see looked
>> harmless and
>> >>> were just alerts regarding possible inconsistencies - just like the
>> warnings
>> >>> in compiling emacs - best avoided if possible, but not critical.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve Holmes writes:
>> >>>> Well at this point, it isn't unique to Arch Linux since I got it to
>> >>>> build.  The rest of the package appears fine.  It's just the errors
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> the TexInfo stuff so I will begin playing with that till I can get
>> >>>> rid
>> >>>> of the errors and warnings.  That should get the package to build
>> >>>> completely without hacking the Makefile or any of that.  I'm still
>> >>>> green enough with emacspeak to see some value in the info pages.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I get some fixes done, are patches allowed to go to the list or
>> >>>> is there a different way to submit fixes?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 3/20/13, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>> Steve Holmes writes:
>> >>>>>> Still looking for how to fix the info target to build correctly
>> >>>>>> though.  I could mess around with the texinfo pages and see if I
>> >>>>>> can
>> >>>>>> correct the errors myself and provide a patch or something but I
>> know
>> >>>>>> little about texinfo let alone track down someone else's text
>> >>>>>> bugs.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sounds like an excellent learning opportunity for you there Steve
>> >>>>> :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Seriously though, from your explination, I suspect the problem is
>> quite
>> >>>>> trivial
>> >>>>> and won't be difficult to locate. I don't think we have many arch
>> linux
>> >>>>> users,
>> >>>>> so your contribution to fixing this, in addition to being very
>> appreciated,
>> >>>>> may
>> >>>>> be the only fix we get. Therefore, I hope and encourage you to give
>> it a try
>> >>>>> -
>> >>>>> at the very least, it will mean you avoid the same hack next time
>> you have
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> update.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I personally don't bother doing make install. I run emacspeak from
>> the
>> >>>>> build
>> >>>>> directory and just add the info files to my info path. To be hones,
>> it has
>> >>>>> been
>> >>>>> years since I've even looked at the info files for emacspeak.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Tim Cross
>> >>>>> IT Security Manager
>> >>>>> Information Technology
>> >>>>> University of New England
>> >>>>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210
>> >>>>> Mobile: 0428 212217
>> >>>>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>> >>>>> ---
>> >>>>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
>> >>>>> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
>> takes a
>> >>>>> touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite
>> direction.
>> >>>>>                                                           —Albert
>> Einstein
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Tim Cross
>> >>> IT Security Manager
>> >>> Information Technology
>> >>> University of New England
>> >>> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210
>> >>> Mobile: 0428 212217
>> >>> E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>   Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd
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>> >>> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
>> >>> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
>> takes a
>> >>> touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite
>> direction.
>> >>>                                                           —Albert
>> Einstein
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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>> > --
>> > Tim Cross
>> > IT Security Manager
>> > Information Technology
>> > University of New England
>> > Phone: +61 2 6773 3210
>> > Mobile: 0428 212217
>> > E-Mail: tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >   Web: http://www.une.edu.au/itd
>> > ---
>> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
>> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>> >
>> > Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
>> takes a
>> > touch of genius (and a lot of courage) to move in the opposite
>> > direction.
>> >                                                           —Albert
>> Einstein
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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> Tim Cross
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