-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi Here, here. I run into this issue constantly. I've actually gotten emacspeak working, kind of, on arch. The pckage build is unmaintained, and I have to modify the build script just to get it to build. Then tclx builds empty binaries, and I have to try to remember what I did to get it working. Then I can't get daisy mode to work ... and the cycle repeats. Once I actually get into emacspeak and get the stuff working, it's phenomenal. The eloquence support is much g better than espeak, but I guess that'll get fixed eventually. Emacspeak is a fantastic concept ... If it just worked instead of returning with process speaker not working, that's because of tclx screwing up, by the way. We need good docs, and we need maintainers of the various distro's emacspeak packages. Thanks Kendell clark On 09/15/2014 04:48 PM, Florian Beijers wrote: > Hi, > > I just finished reading through the Emacspeak at 20 article and > entered what I have dubbed my "Emacspeak loop" again. This > basically consists of me wanting to try Emacspeak, building a vm of > the latest blind-friendly Linux distro out there to save time, > downloading the latest emacspeak, trying to set it up, failing, > getting frustrated and giving up. It has become a trend for me to > wonder what strange, unclear error will jump out at me next when I > try to configure and build Emacspeak. The installation howto that > is available appears to last have been updated about 12 years ago > and scraping together bits and pieces from this list , as well as > other blogs, sometimes help me enough to actually get a semi-stable > instance of Emacspeak going if I'm lucky. Now don't get me wrong, I > really like the concept Emacspeak is trying to portray. I am a > computer science student myself and aim for this to be my chosen > career path. I'd like Emacspeak to be a part of that, but if I keep > having to work a day or more to make the system boot up, let alone > run smoothly, I am wondering where things are going wrong. > Shouldn't we take a bit of time to make this part of the emacspeak > experience a little more user-friendly? Think of writing up > accurate and contemporary installation docs? Perhaps change the > installation script so it actually looks for what speech system is > currently being used rather than making the user manually > configure this, just to name an example? I like the configurability > Emacspeak provides. It gives you the opportunity to change > everything to your liking, but again, this is no use to anybody if > they can't get the system to work. I've recommended Emacspeak to > others in the past and more often than notwas met with a reply > sounding something like "Hmm ...yeah I've heard of it and played > around with it, but I never really got it to work ..." . I think > this is a shame. The more users Emacspeak has the better it can > become. Configurability is good, but sometimes it's also nice to > have a way to quickly get things to work. I just thought of > something while writing this long email, could vagrant not offer a > solution here? Offer pre-made linux VM's where Emacspeak is already > configured? I'm just throwing ideas out there, because I really > think this needs to be improved. > > Regards, Florian > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the > emacspeak list send mail to "firstname.lastname@example.org" with > a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help". > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUF2IHAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTduiUP/0i/zjIiOuBmzXLnBf80bUw0 O3OZbi2HcWiR1QB6Wn07WpDq4guR3DRm8AyRN676d2zg+KeiN8v1SUjiIQ6fWsWT kX6cbm0C2UaSMg+jdeSX6P7CVeXNIzF4Xe//0Lw8ChJKxIUrEFftSzoDgD/hNVOY a9Barp4aaDx9vfI59IrS6GMcRIwqJTzJGklcHpoyA3g04ExuIXipzJjuq3YAdNdI kVdav+Vb12zS8UEEbmbouTqg8u/3sa6nSjOi2BXB2KpH+f6ibO7JwMKHLmaD54nr dSS8YmDlXuezBviuaC9+nJ3LotpHY7Q81iJPoToywckU2uwecdEMRLu90eD43rBA ndedqHm3RXp6vqq3J2aJoIaVBjQH8a8cw75RRMoy85iNqBoA+C6vegshXLGBgo3n bNEV0ZcVVW1VtZeBSKMTQFjL5GN4i+tWepxRcrjspvsXZ/WN+IbkY/3J8NFDTYH7 h0u4aGqNJdYeyS2TYzfhQnA/VszI4C8YTGcADZrdax1NBNOR0BEwyn9ErT3pKUDP /c9xSYaQcNzZIgOFVPwNRCdKY5Cym7Jc9/Gp6Zp+lQFB0svLfFna9q5BVr9RbK0c rPIzLrUuLwqDvXg5R4hYHwTcN5hE1DZiaxg0J4LTP1qnQHdgYrQiBzOPUJsQ4DQs IMqfG3ZtTMzIFQsOqZFN =lZ3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "email@example.com" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".
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