[Emacspeak] Re: Emacspeak and Mac OS

[Till Blesik <till.blesik@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Tim,

I am currently on my mobile so I did not make an effort to check with the latest emacspeak version. I am running a few weeks old version with a python 3.9 environment.
However, the main issue with the environments was that the shebang in the Mac speech Server script points at the wrong environment.

For a detailed write up, I would refer you to my mail from the 13th of May in this list - but I also copied the first paragraph:

1. Short answer, applicable if you do not have multiple python environments:
In "emacspeak-directory/servers/mac":
Change the first line from "#!/usr/bin/env python" to "#!/usr/bin/env python3"
Run "pip3 install pyobjc"
Run "python3 mac" and if you get a voice saying "emacspeak server" you are good to go.

Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Till

> On 30. Jul 2022, at 16:36, Tim Cross via Emacspeak <emacspeak(a)emacspeak.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, tonight I just booted up my Mac Book Pro after several months of not
> using it. I need to go somewhere and now need a laptop.
> 
> I updated to the latest version of Emacspeak and I have Emacs 28.1
> installed (railwaycat's macports version).
> 
> Problem is, I cannot get the mac speech server to work. I recall posts
> to the list with people having issues due to newer versions of python
> being used on latest macOS. However, I am running an old mac book pro
> which cannot be upgraded to macOS 12.x. It is running Big Sur
> 11.6.8. The python version is 2.7
> 
> When I try to run the server, I get an error telling me it cannot find
> the foundation module. If I try to use pip to install the foundation
> module I get other problems (likely due to the old 2.7 version of
> python).
> 
> I then tried updating python to 3.10 and was able to install founation
> module using pip. However, then the mac server tells me it cannot load
> the PyObjCTools module. When I try to install that module, pip tells me
> there is no version available for python 3.10.
> 
> This is the sort of frustration I always run into with python and the
> very reason I absolutely hate it as being one of the worst language
> environments I've ever had the misfortune to deal with. I'd rather
> battle c#, visual basic and .NET!
> 
> CAn someone tell me what would be the easiest way to get a working mac
> speech server on a mac book pro running big sur. Which python version
> should I be using? Do I need to use an older version of Emacspeak to get
> a version of the mac server which works with a pre pyton3 environment?
> If I have to install a python3 environment, which one 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9
> or 3.10? (I initially had 3.9 installed, but the mac server could not
> find the foundation module despite pip telling me it was installed - and
> yes, I was very careful to ensure the python interpreter, pip and
> pyton-conf were all consistent 3.9 versions, even running just the
> interpreter and trying to load the foundation module manually
> failed). Can I use pip to install all necessary modules and which of
> these will I need to install. If not, what/how should I install them? 
> 
> I've not gone down the rabbit hole of python virtual environments and
> would like to avoid that route if possible - it should not be necessary
> just to get the mac server working.
> 
> If I had more time, I would chase all this down myself, but I need to
> get this system working quickly and have not got time to chase down all
> the issues. I need a basic recipe which will work for Big Sur. 
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