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[Emacspeak] Re: Problem with emacspeak on mac after upgrading to macOS 13.3



Greg--

I have gotten in that situation a few ways, the most common is a crashing process.  You say it is speaking again, how do you verify that? 


-- 
Robert "robertmeta" Melton

> On Apr 18, 2023, at 10:14, Greg Wocher <gtwocher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I did get pyobjc installed and that got emacspeak speaking again. However now none of the emacs commands work at all. For example if I do c-x c-c to exit emacs nothing happens. I have to quit emacs from the force quit dialog. I can arrow around on the emacs startup screen but that is all I can do.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Robert Melton <lists(a)robertmelton.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, there are a lot of ways the python server can get sort of twisted, so I am going to mention some things that you probably already tried / knew about, please excuse the duplicative nature. 
>> 
>> 1. When you run it from a terminal, do you hear the welcome message, you should hear 
>> 
>> e mac speak server 
>> 
>> 2. When you run it from the terminal, you can even test it a bit by typing some commands right into the prompt, it is a simple text interface, for example you can type:
>> 
>> t 500 500 
>> 
>> followed by return to hear a tone, if you get the startup sound and it plays a tone it is absolutely working. 
>> 
>> 3. Make sure you are not in a virtual environment for python, as I do work in python this bit me many times.  
>> 
>> 4. Make sure you have pyobjc installed in such a way that it lands in the same path as the version of emacs you are running.  The way you can test this is by running emacs from a terminal and having it work but then running it from the mac spotlight and it doesn't.  That means that the dependency is installed in such a way that when you launch using spotlight it can't find pyobjc.  To fix this you can use a environmental flag when doing the pip install so instead of just
>> 
>> pip3 install pyobjc
>> 
>> you use 
>> 
>> env -i pip3 install pyobjc
>> 
>> 5. I assume you do have python3 installed as it is required.
>> 
>> 6. Besides python, you should have mplayer and sox installed, so you can do that and make sure everything is upgraded with the following three commands: 
>> 
>> brew update
>> 
>> brew upgrade
>> 
>> brew install python sox mplayer 
>> 
>> ----
>> 
>> And with that I think I am out of ideas.  Let us know where you get stuck. 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Robert "robertmeta" Melton
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2023, at 08:13, Till Blesik via Emacspeak <emacspeak(a)emacspeak.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then run „pip3 install pyobjc„ to install the required package and check again if you hear the voice when running the servers/mac file.
>>> 
>>> For swiftmac, take a look at Robert‘s GitHub:
>>> https://github.com/robertmeta/swiftmac
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>>> Till
>>> 
>>>> On 18. Apr 2023, at 12:13, Greg Wocher <gtwocher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> How would I switch to the new swift server? When I tried running ./mac from the servers directory it told me there was no module named foundation. 
>>>> 
>>>> Greg WOcher
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 7:25 PM, Till Blesik <till.blesik(a)gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are using the system Python, the upgrade might updated the used Python version as well and you could be missing libraries. Try „ Python servers/mac“ from the emacspeak root directory. If you don’t hear the emacspeak voice, you need to install the required libraries or consider switching to the swift based speech server that was recently introduced and discussed on this list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>>>>> Till
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18. Apr 2023, at 01:03, Greg Wocher via Emacspeak <emacspeak(a)emacspeak.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>> I do have VOCR on my mac. I just tried running it and there was no error on the screen. I am using the macport version of emacs. I am running the newest version of emacspeak. I may have to uninstall everything to see if that helps but I don't want to do that unless its necessary. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Quin Marilyn <quin.marilyn05(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 3:41:32 PM
>>>>>> To: Greg Wocher <gtwocher(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: bart--- via Emacspeak <emacspeak(a)emacspeak.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Emacspeak] Problem with emacspeak on mac after upgrading to macOS 13.3   Do you have VOCR? Try running OCR on it and seeing what error you get.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Greg Wocher via Emacspeak <emacspeak(a)emacspeak.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> After I upgraded my mac to version 13.3 emacspeak seems to no longer work. When I launch emacs all I get is a window with a toolbar and a text area that neither voiceover or emacspeak reads. I also do get the startup sounds for emacspeak. It just won't read anything. What can I do to try and fix this? THanks for any help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
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