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Re: changing gnome2 window-manager to sawfish



Hi Tim,
As one who continues to stay up to date with Gnome and gnopernicus I have
seen alot of improvement with both over the past year. True, you probably
won't gain much by going to Gnome if all you want is email, text editor, and
a web browser. However, in the larger scheme of things Gnome is now a great
place to run java applications including StarOffice 7, and there are some
advantages to using the Sun Accessibility build of Mozilla.
Over the past year other flagship apps like Oricle have become accessible to
gnopernicus on Solaris and Linux platforms via the gnome and java
accessibility framework.
At this point it is really a matter of requirements. If someone needs to
exchange files with someone at work using MS Word file formats that
functionality is now a reality using gnopernicus and the latest builds of
Staroffice. However, for normal text file reading or editing either emacs or
gedit can be used, and neither is required.By and large for text editing I
still use emacs with emacspeak because I have grown fond of the editor and
the ability to read entire buffers.
Anyway, sorry to rant,, but my recommendation is to use both technologies as
I do. I often switch between gnopernicus and emacspeak depending on the task
I wish to proform.
Hth.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cross" <tcross@rapttech.com.au>
To: <peter.rayner@cea.fr>
Cc: <emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:05 AM
Subject: changing gnome2 window-manager to sawfish


>
> I'm not sure if you can change the window manager except through
> gnome. Its possible if you go through the config files in the various
> gnome related subdirectories off your home directory, you may be able
> to work this out. Personally, when I've needed to change it, I've just
> done it from within gnome.
>
> I can't help much here as I don't run gnome from home anymore - I
> found it consumed a lot of resources and didn't really give me any
> extra functionality which was of any use to me. I did play around with
> gnopernicus for a short time (using sawfish as the window manager, not
> metacity) and while I thought it showed some promise, it wasn't very
> useful at that time and a bit unstable (this was about 12 months
> ago).
>
> Currently, I'm running just sawfish, no gnome or anthing else. I like
> it as its nice and simple. I've not tried getting Raman's bindings
> operational at this time (thought I've been thinking about it) as my
> config is sufficient the way it is - I've defined some of the function
> keys so that I can move between virtual desktops, send applications to
> the next or previous desktop and I've defined a function key to start
> emacs and another one to start an exterm, which I can then run yasr or
> whatever in. This pretty much gives me everything I need at this time
> and has the advantage its simple, quick and does not consume too much
> memory or cpu resources.
>
> Tim
> peter.rayner@cea.fr writes:
>  > I'm trying to set up Raman's sawfish bindings for emacspeak on a new
>  > machine.  It's running gnome2.  I have failed to find pointers to how
>  > to change the window manager from metacity to sawfish *except*  from
>  > within gnome itself.
>  > This is kind of astonishing and I'm sure I must be missing something
>  > but has someone else done this?
>  > cheers
>  > Peter
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