um, this is a very smug answer. I actually wondered this same thing, but now that we got the answer of all answers from the devolper of this project I guess we shouldn't dare ask or we might get another answer like this
On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:10 PM, T. V. Raman wrote: I wont waste my time answering the question about emacs' relevance. With respect to why emacspeak doesn't bother implementing the screenreader equivalent of leaving cursor where you stopped speaking, it's not there because I've never needed it in Emacs. Screenreaders need to provide that functionality because non-emacs environments dont provide incremental search. Given that it's trivial to make Emacs make the cursor go to where you want, the work involved in implementing what you refer to was never worth the while.
"Tyler" == Tyler Spivey <tspivey@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Tyler> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tyler> Tyler> How relevant is Emacs, and thus by extension Tyler> emacspeak, in today's modern world? I've been reading Tyler> the Emacspeak papers, and the entire concept of an Tyler> audio user interface sounds interesting, and certainly Tyler> would sound better than the current screen readers Tyler> trying to read the screen, and not knowing anything Tyler> about the content. Given all that, FireVox and FireFox Tyler> can be used with the web once they mature, but is Tyler> Emacs still a good system for working on audible user Tyler> interfaces given its age, and the possibility of Tyler> alternatives existing? I'm mostly asking because Tyler> Emacspeak and its alternative speechd-el are missing Tyler> features that are now standard in other systems, such Tyler> as a read from cursor to end of document that, when Tyler> interrupted, will put your cursor where the Tyler> synthesizer stopped reading. Is this just not possible Tyler> to do in Emacs, or has it just not been done before? Tyler> Is emacs the only existing system that lets us advise Tyler> and hook into it while running to add the speech Tyler> functionality on top of it rather than recoding the Tyler> system to speak? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Tyler> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Tyler>Tyler> iEYEARECAAYFAkjFl +0ACgkQTsjaYASMWKTnqgCghhmnr9B8oQ6C5QMJnWArabo4
Tyler> /VQAoIJ1DONMwDaLJCmocugmyOTYmMnG =tyV8 -----END PGP Tyler> SIGNATURE----- Tyler>Tyler> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tyler> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your Tyler> address on the emacspeak list send mail to Tyler> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of Tyler> "unsubscribe" or "help" -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help" On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:10 PM, T. V. Raman wrote: I wont waste my time answering the question about emacs' relevance. With respect to why emacspeak doesn't bother implementing the screenreader equivalent of leaving cursor where you stopped speaking, it's not there because I've never needed it in Emacs. Screenreaders need to provide that functionality because non-emacs environments dont provide incremental search. Given that it's trivial to make Emacs make the cursor go to where you want, the work involved in implementing what you refer to was never worth the while.
"Tyler" == Tyler Spivey <tspivey@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Tyler> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tyler> Tyler> How relevant is Emacs, and thus by extension Tyler> emacspeak, in today's modern world? I've been reading Tyler> the Emacspeak papers, and the entire concept of an Tyler> audio user interface sounds interesting, and certainly Tyler> would sound better than the current screen readers Tyler> trying to read the screen, and not knowing anything Tyler> about the content. Given all that, FireVox and FireFox Tyler> can be used with the web once they mature, but is Tyler> Emacs still a good system for working on audible user Tyler> interfaces given its age, and the possibility of Tyler> alternatives existing? I'm mostly asking because Tyler> Emacspeak and its alternative speechd-el are missing Tyler> features that are now standard in other systems, such Tyler> as a read from cursor to end of document that, when Tyler> interrupted, will put your cursor where the Tyler> synthesizer stopped reading. Is this just not possible Tyler> to do in Emacs, or has it just not been done before? Tyler> Is emacs the only existing system that lets us advise Tyler> and hook into it while running to add the speech Tyler> functionality on top of it rather than recoding the Tyler> system to speak? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Tyler> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Tyler>Tyler> iEYEARECAAYFAkjFl +0ACgkQTsjaYASMWKTnqgCghhmnr9B8oQ6C5QMJnWArabo4
Tyler> /VQAoIJ1DONMwDaLJCmocugmyOTYmMnG =tyV8 -----END PGP Tyler> SIGNATURE----- Tyler>Tyler> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tyler> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your Tyler> address on the emacspeak list send mail to Tyler> "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of Tyler> "unsubscribe" or "help" -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "emacspeak-request@xxxxxxxxxxx" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help"
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