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Re: emacspeak without tcl8.4



Thanks, I'll try this again.  We have a Mercury retrograde today and 
that's my best time for starting out new projects.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, T. V. Raman wrote:

> DTK_PROGRAMshould identify the server, it should not be set to
> the full path.
> 
> >>>>> "Jude" == Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
>     Jude> I got the DTk_PROGRAM variable pointed at
>     Jude> /home/jude/git/emacspeak/servers/espeak and file espeak
>     Jude> in that directory identifies it as a tcl 8.4 script. I
>     Jude> think it's executable since after having started
>     Jude> emacspeak 35.0 up and running c-eN I get the news file
>     Jude> up and no user visible changes are documented in it for
>     Jude> emacspeak 35.0 .
>     Jude> 
>     Jude> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Steve Holmes wrote:
>     Jude> 
>     >> I've also been using emacspeak with the espeak server for
>     >> over a year on Arch Linux now. I'm current so dunno what
>     >> version of tcl is running but I haven't had any
>     >> problems. I'm using emacspeak from the SVN package
>     >> available from AUR and that places all its files in
>     >> standard emacs lisp libraries basically. The only problem
>     >> I have had so far is getting capital letters to speak in a
>     >> higher pitch when cursoring over them a letter at a
>     >> time. Pitch changes when I have style changes or when
>     >> reading capitalized words but not individual
>     >> letters. That's probably an espeak thing with emacspeak
>     >> though I get pitch changes with Orca and speakuip.
>     >> 
>     >> On 3/11/12, Tim Cross <tcross@une.edu.au> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> > OK, that being the case, then setting
>     >> DTK_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/espeak is > incorrect. You need to
>     >> set DTK_PROGRAM to the espeak script within the > servers
>     >> > directory of the emacspeak tree. Note that you may need
>     >> to change the > execution > bits on the espeak TCL script
>     >> to make it executable.
>     >> >
>     >> > Tim
>     >> >
>     >> > Jude DaShiell writes: > > By way of further
>     >> clarification, /usr/bin/espeak and /usr/bin/eflite were >
>     >> > created by the espeak and eflite packages
>     >> respectively.On Mon, 12 Mar > > 2012, Tim Cross wrote:
>     >> >  >
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > Jude,
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > be aware that both the upstream e-speak package and
>     >> emacspeak come with > > > executable files called
>     >> espeak. You need to ensure the espeak > executable emacs >
>     >> > > and emacspeak are using is the correct one.
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > Also note that the espeak tcl script provided by
>     >> emacspeak has an > expectation > > > that the shared
>     >> library it loads is in a subdirectory relative to the >
>     >> scripts > > > working directory called linux-espeak. If
>     >> the espeak script has been > moved to > > > /usr/bin, in
>     >> addition to causing conflicts with the e-speak pacakge >
>     >> binary of > > > the same name, the emacspeak espeak script
>     >> will likely fail because it > cannot > > > load the
>     >> atcleci.so library. The script would need to be modified
>     >> if > its > > > location is changed from the servers
>     >> directory.
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > The EMACSPEAK_DIR should not be set to point to
>     >> /usr/bin. This variable > is used > > > by emacspeak to
>     >> find lisp files, auditory icons and other auxillary > data
>     >> files > > > and should point to the root of the emacspeak
>     >> directory, not to > /usr/bin.
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > I have also used tcl8.5 with both outloud and espeak
>     >> with no problems.
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > Tim
>     >> >  > >
>     >> > > > Jude DaShiell writes: > > > > That's the situation
>     >> in archlinux which has a unique upgrade policy. > The > >
>     >> > > policy is that rolling upgrades take place. There's no
>     >> freezing or > > > > different versions like with Debian
>     >> and for now archlinux left > tcl8.4 in > > > > favor of
>     >> tcl8.5. If this is an impossible build environment, for as
>     >> > long > > > > as the necessary files from tcl8.4 remain
>     >> available for download on > the > > > > internet it may be
>     >> useful for the emacspeak project to have the > links to >
>     >> > > > them documented. While emacspeak was installed on
>     >> this system, it > and > > > > espeak and eflite were all
>     >> in the /usr/bin directory and I had echo > > > >
>     >> $DTK_PROGRAM returning either eflite or espeak once
>     >> .profile was > modified > > > > correctly and echo
>     >> $EMACSPEAK_DIR returned /usr/bin. Even with > these > > >
>     >> > conditions, and with the understanding that talking arch
>     >> uses espeak > to > > > > talk in the first place running
>     >> emacspeak only got me a process > speaker > > > > not
>     >> running message after which I had to issue the three
>     >> finger > salute to > > > > exit the environment. For now,
>     >> emacspeak is in unsupported status > on > > > > archlinux
>     >> and if it gets enough votes and an adopter it could move >
>     >> into a > > > > supported status.
>     >> >  > >  >
>     >> >  > >  > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>     >> > > > > Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> > > > >
>     >> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>
>     >> >  > >  >
>     >> >  > >  >
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>     >> >  > >
>     >> >  > >
>     >> >  >
>     >> >  > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>     >> > > Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> > >
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>     >> >  >
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>     >> >
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>     >> >
>     >> > Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
>     >> violent. It takes a > touch of genius (and a lot of
>     >> courage) to move in the opposite direction. > ?Albert
>     >> Einstein
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
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>     Jude> 
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