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Re: Emacspeak and org mode

Hi Raman,

it seems some of my problems were due to recent org changes, which appear to have been reverted with todays updated org-plus-contrib. However, I am now seeing some other problems. 

I’m a little confused with respect to advice and the chagnes which have been made. Am I right in assuming that emacspeak is still using the older defadvice rather than the suggested advice-add approach?

Also, I think there is something wrong in some of the advice defined for org-mode. In emacspeak-org.el Updated from git today), you have

 for f in
   org-beginning-of-line org-end-of-line
   org-beginning-of-item org-beginning-of-item-list)
  `(defadvice ,f (around emacspeak pre act comp)
     "Provide auditory feedback."
     (when (ems-interactive-p) (emacspeak-speak-line)))))

as this is an ‘around’ advice, don’t you need to also call ad-do-it to actually execute the underlying function? I notice in org-mode files right now, C-a, which is bound to org-beginning-of-line just speaks the line and does not move the point. I suspect this is an error and you really want after rather than around for this advice?



Tim Cross

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University of New England
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On 14 Aug 2015, at 1:18 am, raman <raman@google.com> wrote:

Here are some tips on how you can go about chasing down the cause of the
spurious feedback etc.

1. Read the docs for commands ad-activate-advice, ad-enable-advice and
their opposites.

2. Use describe-key to find the command  you're running  when the
problem occurs.

3. See if that command is advised; if yes, then if the issue is too much
feedback, play with ad-deactivate and ad-disable 

4. If it is too little feedback, see if the command is advised, and if
yes, if its output is being clobbered by something else.

5. A good way to check if something else is clobbering the output is to
run one of the logging servers, execute just the problem command
sequence, then study the set of speech calls.

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