Re: Problems with the set-mark-command

[Christopher J Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

T V,

Thanks for the response.  I know there isn't much information, but I
appreciate any help or suggestions you can provide.

I tried C-space, followed by a few C-n's and then C-x C-x, and everything
worked fine.  Apparently, the mark is being set.  Although, I did notice that
the help for the `exchange-point-and-mark' command states:

   This command works even when the mark is not active,
   and it reactivates the mark.

However, when I try C-w or M-w, I still get a beep from my workstation (not
the Express) and the message ``The mark is not active now'' in the *Messages*
buffer.

Could there be something going on with the `kill-region' or `kill-ring-save'
commands?  I noticed that they're both advised and try to use an auditory
icon.  Could this be unsetting the mark on my system?

If I telnet into the workstation, I use C-2 to set the mark and then C-w or
M-w work fine.  In Emacspeak, I even tried using the commands M-x
set-mark-command and M-x kill-region, and I still get the beep and no text is
copied into the kill ring.

Is there a way to unadvise some functions, such as `set-mark-command',
`kill-region', ...?  I'd rather unadvise some select commands than get some
help bringing up Emacs without Emacspeak.  Thanks!

>>>>> "TVR" == T V Raman <raman@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

TVR> The information you give certainly doesn't shed much light
TVR> on anything.

TVR> First of all, after you set the mark check if the mark is
TVR> indeed set --move the cursor and execute C-x C-x which
TVR> exchanges point and mark.

TVR> My guess is that you are either not setting the mark, or
TVR> unsetting it in some way before you delete the region with
TVR> C-w -- but the fact that you say you hear a beep from the
TVR> express indicates that something did get deleted.

TVR> Anyway, if you are not able to set the mark, that is not an
TVR> emacspeak problem--
TVR> it's either something in your environment or more likely
TVR> something with your keyboard-
TVR> for instance if you are logging in via a telnet session
TVR> control-space doesn't usually work.
TVR> Christopher J Chaltain writes:
>> I've been having trouble with the set-mark-command.  When I type Ctrl-space,
>> I'll here the current line spoken.  If I move down the file with the Ctrl-n
>> and then type Ctrl-w, all I hear is a beep from my workstation speaker.  The
>> *Messages* buffer only contains the message:
>> 
>> Error: The mark is not set now
>> 
>> I get the same behavior when I use the command ad-Orig-set-mark-command,
>> except the current line isn't spoken.  When I log in remotely, using Screen
>> Reader/2 on a PC, Emacs works as expected.
>> 
>> I'm runnint Emacs 20.2 on a RS/6000 running AIX 4.3.1.  I'm using TCL version
>> 8.0P2.
>> 
>> This doesn't seem like much information to go on.  Is there anything I can do
>> to get more information?
>> 
>> I've been using Emacspeak since December 1997, and I'm very happy and
>> excited!  I've been an Emacs user since I first started working on AIX in
>> 1993, and the Emacspeak interface makes working in Emacs and Unix so much
>> more efficient.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Christopher
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TVR> -- 
TVR> Best Regards,
TVR> --raman

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Christopher
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