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Andrea,

Are you running emacspeak under X windows on Mandrake? If so, it is
possible the left and right arrow keys may be defined as hot keys for
your window manager. If this is the case, emacs will never see the
left/right arrows as they will be swalloed by the window
manager. Another possible cause could be either you don't have the
correct keyboard selected and your X server believes it is usin a
keybord which either does not have arrow keys or one which uses a
different code for the arrow keys. 

If you are running on the Linux console, it is possible your console
termcap entry is not correct. 

Do you know if the right/left arrow keys work for other applications?

I don't run Mandrake, but I did for a short time a couple of years
ago. I don't like the distribution very much - it is one which is very
much oriented towards an X windows environment and is quite customized
for a nice flashy visual X experience, which is pretty much wasted on
most emacspeak users. I also found the default Mandrake site init
file had some customizations which conflicted with emacspeak (for
example, at that time, emacspeak couldn't handle transient mark mode
very well, but it does now).  From memory, the Mandrake site init file
for emacs sets up pc selection keys and a few other things to make
emacs feel like a winblows system. It is possible there might be
something in the site init file which could be screwing with
emacspeak.

Something you could try is use C-h k and then hit the left or right
arrow key. This should tell you what function that key is bound to. It
should report emacspeak-backward-char or emacspeak-forward-char. If it
reports something different, then I would strongly suspect something
in the site init file is redefining the key binding. From memory, the
site init files for emacs are in /etc/emacs/site-lisp.d. 

With respect to C-h t not bringing up the emacs tutorial -  would
report this to Mandrake as it sounds like a bug in their emacs
package. You could also have a look in /usr/share/emacs/<version>/etc
where version is the version of emacs you are running e.g. 21.2. This
is where the emacs tutorial file should be if it is installed. If it
is, then you can just read it in a buffer. make sure you check the
Mandrake site for any package updates which need to be applied - its
possible your problems are due to a bug in the ackage/distribution
which they are aware of and have released fixes for.

Tim
>>>>> "Andrea" == Andrea Roveretto <andrea@andrearoveretto.it> writes:

 Andrea> Hello!  I have some problems with emacspeak and apollo
 Andrea> server. I am not sure if these problems refer to emacspeak,
 Andrea> the apollo server, or to myself... So I ask, and if I must
 Andrea> read something please point me in the right direction.

 Andrea> I am using mandrake linux version 9.  I installed emacspeak
 Andrea> and the server package with success.  The problems are the
 Andrea> following:

 Andrea> 1) when I use the left and right arrows nothing is spoken,
 Andrea> while up and down arrows work ok.

 Andrea> 2) Some time some messages are not spoken: If I press c-h t,
 Andrea> for the emacs tutorial a message pops up sayng that the file
 Andrea> does not exists (probably it was not present in my emacs
 Andrea> distribution) but emacspeak does not read this.  If I press
 Andrea> c-h c-h emacspeak reads something like "scroll the list with
 Andrea> space or canc and choose an option), but no list of options
 Andrea> is read.

 Andrea> Ok I stop here for the moment Really thanks !  Andrea
 Andrea> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0
 Andrea> Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type
 Andrea> content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META
 Andrea> content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR>
 Andrea> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT
 Andrea> face=Arial size=2>Hello!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2>I have some problems with emacspeak and apollo
 Andrea> server. I am not sure if these problems refer to emacspeak,
 Andrea> the apollo server, or to myself... So I ask, and if I must
 Andrea> read something please point me in the right
 Andrea> direction.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am
 Andrea> using mandrake linux version 9.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT
 Andrea> face=Arial size=2>I installed emacspeak and the server
 Andrea> package with success.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2>The problems are the following:</FONT></DIV>
 Andrea> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT
 Andrea> face=Arial size=2>1) when I use the left and right arrows
 Andrea> nothing is spoken, while up and down arrows work
 Andrea> ok.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2)
 Andrea> Some time some messages are not spoken:</FONT></DIV>
 Andrea> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If I press c-h t, for the emacs
 Andrea> tutorial a message pops up sayng that the file does not
 Andrea> exists (probably it was not present in my emacs distribution)
 Andrea> but emacspeak does not read this.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT
 Andrea> face=Arial size=2>If I press c-h c-h emacspeak reads
 Andrea> something like "scroll the list with space&nbsp; or canc and
 Andrea> choose an option), but no list of options is
 Andrea> read.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok I
 Andrea> stop here for the moment</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2>Really thanks !</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2>Andrea</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
 Andrea> size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Tim Cross
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University of New England
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