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Bug in emacspeak?



T. V. Raman writes:
 > 
 > I copied your lines of code into a foo.rb file so that it was in
 > ruby mode, and yes, the third line of special chars is not spoken
 > with punctuations set to some. 
 > 
 > On the Dectalk Express it does produce a tone; I need to verify
 > if/whether it produces a tone on the Viavoice.
 > 
 > Personally I dont think this is a bug --- which chars did you
 > expect to be spoken out of the line:
 > "#{$`}<<#{$&}>>#{$'}"                    

The reason I thought it may be a bug is because the behavior is
inconsistent. If you add a alphanumeric character to that line, the
dollar characters are spoken as well as the alphanumeric character.
Without the alphanumeric character nothing is spoken. I would have
assumed that with punctuation set to some, the same punctuation
characters should be spoken regardless of whether therre is an
alphanumeric character as well.

 > 
 > Note that punctuation some in TTS is purely to preserve
 > intonation structure, and is not necessarily very clever about
 > selectively speaking subsets of chars out of a string like
 > above. 
 > 
 > But the bigger question: why would you program with punctuations
 > set to some? Anyone who does that will surely get what they deserve:-)
 >

Actually, this occured while reading a web page about ruby i.e. I was
not programming, but surfing the web. 

Tim

 
 > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@rapttech.com.au> writes:
 >     Tim> Dear all,
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> for a while, I've observed occasions when emacspeak
 >     Tim> refuses to speak a line which contains punctuation
 >     Tim> characters, but no alphanumberic characters even when
 >     Tim> punctuation mode is set to none.. I've not looked into
 >     Tim> this at all, but wanted to see if anyone else
 >     Tim> experiences similar behavior. I suspect its possibly a
 >     Tim> bug in the cleanup patterns used in the tcl script, but
 >     Tim> this is just a wild arse guess. I'm wondering if users
 >     Tim> with other synthesises experience the same problem (I'm
 >     Tim> using ViaVoice). this may help me track down what the
 >     Tim> error is due to.
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> Below is an example using a piece of ruby code. In this
 >     Tim> example, the 3rd line is not spoken unless punctuation
 >     Tim> is set to all. However, I think it should still speak
 >     Tim> some of the characters if punctuation is set to some,
 >     Tim> but this doesn't happen unless you also add some
 >     Tim> non-punctuation characters.
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> def showRE(a,re) if a =~ re "#{$`}<<#{$&}>>#{$'}" else
 >     Tim> "no match" end end
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> The reason I suspect this is a bug rather than a feature
 >     Tim> is because its behavior is inconsistent. For example, if
 >     Tim> you add an alphernumeric character to the end of the
 >     Tim> line - for example 'f', then the line is spoken with all
 >     Tim> the $ characters and the f. Once you remove the f,
 >     Tim> nothing is spoken, but I would have expected the dollar
 >     Tim> signs should still have been spoken (this is with
 >     Tim> punctuation set to some). I've also noticed that if you
 >     Tim> get this page spoken using page up and then page down,
 >     Tim> the dollar signs do get spoken, but if you move through
 >     Tim> the page using the down arrow or C-n, the line is
 >     Tim> blank. You also don't hear the indent spoken.
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> I'm hoping someone using a different synthesizer which
 >     Tim> uses a tcl script does not observe this inconsistency as
 >     Tim> this will give me something to compare and assist in
 >     Tim> debugging these reasonably complex regular expressions.
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> -- Tim Cross tcross@rapttech.com.au
 >     Tim> 
 >     Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
 >     Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
 >     Tim> understand what they manage.
 >     Tim> 
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 > -- 
 > Best Regards,
 > --raman
 > 
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-- 
Tim Cross
tcross@rapttech.com.au

There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
understand and those who do not understand what they manage.

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