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I'd agree with this. The espeak supports needs improvement, as well as
emacspeak-bookshare, unless i'm missing some configuration step. I
keep running into an error of, bookshare password for nil. I enter the
password, and a few seconds later, "Does not look like a bookshare
response" I think either bookshare support is broken, or maybe the
bookshare API has changed, not sure.
Thanks
Kendell clark

On 09/15/2014 05:31 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> Ubuntu has a deb package fo r emacspeak 38. Also one for speech. It
> is already two versions behind. Also, speech server package runs
> into trouble because DECtalk express is still default speech
> engine. They don't even make it anymore. Do not know why. It is
> still the default. E-speak makes more sense because it is
> everywhere now
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Florian Beijers
>> <florianbeijers@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think it is a matter of inclination more than a matter of
>> expertise. A lot of these steps, when I look at them as you have
>> listed them here, can be automated perfectly easily. Trouble is
>> mainly caused by the distro-specific espeak packages and tcl. I
>> am not an expert at this but from my point of view it doesn't
>> look too difficult to make distro-specific packages (.deb, .rpm)
>> for this and write an install script that automates pretty much
>> the whole deal. I would do it, but I am currently swamped with
>> other stuff and just don't have the time and resources to learn
>> and research Bash scripting and distro package maintenance ...
>> 
>> Regards, Florian
>> 
>> 2014-09-16 0:16 GMT+02:00, Alex Midence
>> <alex.midence@gmail.com>:
>>> Yes, it's a royal pain to get working.  Basically, here's what
>>> you have to do:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Get the source via svn: $ svn co
>>> http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk emacspeak 2.  Get the
>>> espeak development library packages.  (This is distro-specific 
>>> so, do some digging) 3.  Get tcl8.4. 4. cd into the emacspeak
>>> directory and as root type make config 5.  Type make emacspeak
>>> as root. 6.  cd into the servers directory and find the
>>> linux-espeak directory and cd into it. 7.  Now, do a make; make
>>> install either as sudo or root. 8.  Issue the following
>>> environment variable command: Export DTK_PROGRAM=espeak 9.
>>> nano /usr/bin/emacspeak 10.  Arrow down to bottom of the file
>>> and get that -q out of there. Arrow up to the line referring to
>>> emacs in unary mode and put a hash in front of it to coment
>>> out.  Ctrl x and save.
>>> 
>>> After all that, type emacspeak at a command line prompt and all
>>> should be well.  Those of you shouting and hollering that it
>>> shouldn't be this hard are right but, trouble is, no one seems
>>> to either have the expertise or inclination to make it easier.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: kendell clark
>>> [mailto:coffeekingms@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15,
>>> 2014 5:03 PM To: Florian Beijers; emacspeak list Subject: Re:
>>> Emacspeak installation information
>>> 
> 
> 
> hi Here, here. I run into this issue constantly. I've actually
> gotten emacspeak working, kind of, on arch. The pckage build is
> unmaintained, and I have to modify the build script just to get it
> to build. Then tclx builds empty binaries, and I have to try to
> remember what I did to get it working. Then I can't get daisy mode
> to work ... and the cycle repeats. Once I actually get into
> emacspeak and get the stuff working, it's phenomenal. The
> eloquence support is much g better than espeak, but I guess that'll
> get fixed eventually. Emacspeak is a fantastic concept ... If it
> just worked instead of returning with process speaker not working,
> that's because of tclx screwing up, by the way. We need good docs,
> and we need maintainers of the various distro's emacspeak
> packages. Thanks Kendell clark
> 
>>>>> On 09/15/2014 04:48 PM, Florian Beijers wrote: Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just finished reading through the Emacspeak at 20 article
>>>>> and entered what I have dubbed my "Emacspeak loop"  again.
>>>>> This basically consists of me wanting to try Emacspeak,
>>>>> building a vm of the latest blind-friendly Linux distro out
>>>>> there to save time, downloading the latest emacspeak,
>>>>> trying to set it up, failing, getting frustrated and giving
>>>>> up. It has become a trend for me to wonder what strange, 
>>>>> unclear error will jump out at me next when I try to
>>>>> configure and build Emacspeak. The installation howto that
>>>>> is available appears to last have been updated about 12
>>>>> years ago and scraping together bits and pieces from this
>>>>> list , as well as other blogs, sometimes help me enough to
>>>>> actually get a semi-stable instance of Emacspeak going if 
>>>>> I'm lucky. Now don't get me wrong, I really like the
>>>>> concept Emacspeak is trying to portray. I am a computer
>>>>> science student myself and aim for this to be my chosen
>>>>> career path. I'd like Emacspeak to be a part of that, but
>>>>> if I keep having to work a day or more to make the system 
>>>>> boot up, let alone run smoothly, I am wondering where
>>>>> things are going wrong. Shouldn't we take a bit of time to
>>>>> make this part of the emacspeak experience a little more
>>>>> user-friendly? Think of writing up accurate and
>>>>> contemporary installation docs? Perhaps change the
>>>>> installation script so it actually looks for what speech
>>>>> system is currently being used rather than making the user
>>>>> manually configure this, just to name an example? I like
>>>>> the configurability Emacspeak provides. It gives you the
>>>>> opportunity to change everything to your liking, but
>>>>> again, this is no use to anybody if they can't get the
>>>>> system to work. I've recommended Emacspeak to others in the
>>>>> past and more often than notwas met with a reply sounding
>>>>> something like "Hmm ...yeah I've heard of it and played
>>>>> around with it, but I never really got it to work ..." . I 
>>>>> think this is a shame. The more users Emacspeak has the
>>>>> better it can become. Configurability is good, but
>>>>> sometimes it's also nice to have a way to quickly get
>>>>> things to work. I just thought of something while writing
>>>>> this long email, could vagrant not offer a solution here? 
>>>>> Offer pre-made linux VM's where Emacspeak is already
>>>>> configured? I'm just throwing ideas out there, because I
>>>>> really think this needs to be improved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Florian
>>>>> 
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