Re: different test results

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

espeak compiled to use portaudio which is distributed in the talkingarch 
distribution.

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:31:39
> From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: emacspeak <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: different test results
> Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:31:41 -0500 (EST)
> Resent-From: emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> What synthesizer are you talking about and what distribution? I've never 
> noticed an issue with Emacspeak and PulseAudio except when using eSpeak 
> compiled to use PortAudio. Once I recompile eSpeak to use the runtime or 
> PulseAudio options, everything is fine.
>
> On 11/16/2015 05:53 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > emacspeak post-install slows speech rate when running, so I'm not
> > certain pulseaudio is playing all that well with emacspeak.
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Nov 2015, Tim Cross wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:17:55
> > > From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: emacspeak <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: different test results
> > >
> > > My question would be why get rid of pulseaudio?
> > >
> > > Early versions of pulseaudio had performance issues, but that was a long
> > > tiime ago. I've been using pulseaudio on multiple systems with both
> > > Outloud
> > > viavoice and espeak without a problem (though last time I used espeak, I
> > > did re-build it and ensure the native pulseaudio support was enabled. Not
> > > sure if that is still necessary).  On some systems, such as those where I
> > > use Outloud ViaVoice, I have to install 32 bit as well as 64 bit libs and
> > > it all works flawlessly.
> > >
> > > Pulseaudio is now the default sound layer on Linux systems and it
> > > would be
> > > better to embrace it rather than fight against it. It means you no longer
> > > need to have custom asoundrc files, have an easy way to set different
> > > volume and other characteristics for different sound sources etc.
> > >
> > > I have tried the remoal of pulseaudio and it can be one, but it is a
> > > lot of
> > > effort and will 'sneak' back when you decide to install a new program
> > > which
> > > has any sound support because pulseaudio is often the default config.
> > >
> > > If you have pulseaudio issues, I would strongly recommend tracking those
> > > down and fixing them rather than attempting to remove pulse. While I did
> > > need to do some tweaking with older verisons, I've found all the distros
> > > I've tried have resolved those issues now and have not needed to do any
> > > tweaking of the pulse setup for at least 2+ years.
> > >
> > > On 15 November 2015 at 23:07, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > To do this right, I need to learn how to do three things.
> > > > 1) remove pulseaudio from an existing archlinux system,
> > > > 2) prevent pulseaudio from installing on pre-existing archlinux
> > > > system in
> > > > future,
> > > > 3) find out how to install an archlinux system without pulseaudio and
> > > > keep
> > > > it off newly installed systems.
> > > > Any help along these lines will be greatfully received.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:23:35
> > > > > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Cc: emacspeak <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: Re: different test results
> > > > > Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:23:36 -0500 (EST)
> > > > > Resent-From: emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The basic sound output is alsa since pulseaudio doesn't make any sound
> > > > > but does manage alsa.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Tim Cross wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 15:36:38
> > > > > > From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Cc: emacspeak <emacspeak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: different test results
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you using alsa or pulseaudio as your basic sound output?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would be surprised if SOX is causing problems. One of the options
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > playing auditory icons now uses SOX. I've used this as my default for
> > > > > > auditory icons on both Linux and OSX for the past few months and it
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > really well. I am using viavoice outloud on linux rather than espeak
> > > > > > though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It isn't clear (to me) from your email exactly what you expected from
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > tests and what is not working correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8 November 2015 at 20:54, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Before doing the next test, I removed the sox package from the system
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > rebooted.
> > > > > > > This time tclsh enter just said espeak next q "this is a test."
> > > > > > > enter d
> > > > > > > enter said this is a test.  I couldn't find any percent signs on the
> > > > > > > screen
> > > > > > > even after hitting the enter key a couple times so I typed exit enter
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > exited back to the servers directory.  With emacspeak starting up on
> > > > > > > emacs,
> > > > > > > speech is at normal speed not slower.  That sox package and emacspeak
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > not play nicely together.
> > > > > > > I put it on the machine to enable recording from microphone into
> > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the computer originally.
> > > > > > >
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