I would be most interested in your setup. I had no idea org-mode could be used in this manner. I looked briefly at the org-babel stuff and I have to do a lot more reading to understand it fully. Apparently, you can actually execute or evaluate code from org-mode but it sounds like you are doing something different. Anyway, I think some examples here will go much further to explain how to do this.
I look forward to what you can share. Getting emacspeak working just the way we want can be a challenge.
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> So far, using org-mode seems to work well. I’m still tweaking it a bit to get it right, but essentially, you can define your elisp blocks so that when you generate the code from the file, it will put various blocks in different *.el files. In my setup, I have a directory in .emacs.d called ‘lisp’ where all my *.el files go - for example, I have init-emacspeak.el
>
> In my .emacs.d directory, I have an init.org file and an init.el file. The init.el file and the *.el files in the lisp directory are all generated from the init.org file. The init.el file is essentially just some basic setup code i.e. setting load-path etc and then a whole bunch of require statements which load files from the lisp directory.
>
> I will try to find time to clean up my init.org file and will then ut it up on github in case anyone wants to have a look at it. However, emacspeak users will need to recognise that my setup is a bit more complex than most users will need and has a lot of additional packages which many probably won’t want. Provided people use it just as a guide and not a canned configuration file, I’m happy for people to use whatever they want from it. I will not be in a position to help debug any problems people run into.
>
> I have also included an experimental ‘get me out of trouble’ feature, which should allow easy startup of emacs with emacspeak in a minimal configuration - the idea being that if you break things, you have an escape hatch to get basic functionality back.
>
> regards,
>
> Tim
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> Tim Cross
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>> On 11 Jun 2015, at 12:04 am, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> That's good to hear -- re org -- have been planning to do
>> something like that for myself -- just haven't had the time. My
>> .custom file keeps corrupting itself and I started keeping it
>> under git control -- but that doesn't help much either. A giant
>> custom file basically becomes a single-point of failure -- it's
>> like the Windows Registry:-)
>>>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> Tim> ?Hi Victor, I think Raman hit the nail on the head - the
>> Tim> dtk speech settings, such as speech rate, are a little
>> Tim> different and need to be setup as part of the startup
>> Tim> hook. Have a look at his settings in the tvr directory
>> Tim> for good examples. I moved away from using the custom
>> Tim> stuff, preferring to do it manually. In fact, I recently
>> Tim> moved to using org-mode with babel and now keep all my
>> Tim> emacs config in a file called init.org and use org modes
>> Tim> babel support to export the relevant bits as *.el files
>> Tim> in my .emacs.d directory. Quite like using this literate
>> Tim> programming approach to maintaining my configuration as
>> Tim> it provides more background/notes on why certain
>> Tim> configuraitons are done in certain ways.
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Tim
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim> -- Tim Cross IT Security Manager Information Technology
>> Tim> Directorate University of New England Armidale NSW 2351
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Phone: +61 2 6773 3210 Mobile: +61 428 212 217 Email:
>> Tim> tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From:
>> Tim> Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, 10
>> Tim> June 2015 2:18 PM To: Tim Cross Cc: emacspeak Subject:
>> Tim> Re: Emacspeak ignores custom values from the .emacs file
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Hello TIm. All of your assumptions are correct. I set
>> Tim> custom values from the Easy Customization wizards,
>> Tim> Emacspeak is loaded from the first line of my .emacs
>> Tim> file and c-e c-s does not make any difference in my
>> Tim> scenario.
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Thanks, Victor
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Tim Cross
>> Tim> <theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:theophilusx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Tim> wrote: Hi Victor,
>> Tim>
>> Tim> we probably need a bit more info as there are different
>> Tim> ways of doing this.
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Can you clarify - are you using emacs custom to set
>> Tim> these values or have you created entries manually in
>> Tim> your emacs init file to customize emacs settings?
>> Tim>
>> Tim> I'm assuming you have a line in your .emacs file to load
>> Tim> the emacspeak startup stuff - is this at the beginning
>> Tim> of your .emacs file?
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Is this with all emacspeak settings or just some?
>> Tim>
>> Tim> If you restart the server with C-e C-s, do your settings
>> Tim> take effect?
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Tim
>> Tim>
>> Tim> On 9 June 2015 at 16:40, Victor Tsaran
>> Tim> <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vtsaran@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> Tim> Hi. I've noticed the below behavior since I started
>> Tim> running from the git repository, but didn't want to ask
>> Tim> here before looking around. Unfortunately, I did not
>> Tim> find any answer, so am posting here... After making the
>> Tim> Emacspeak-relatedcustomizations, which are saved in my
>> Tim> .emacs file, every time I start Emacs with Emacspeak,
>> Tim> the latter ignores Emacspeak-related values from . emacs
>> Tim> and reverts to the default ones. For example, if I set
>> Tim> my Mac speech rate to 550, Emacspeak reverts to the
>> Tim> default one (225) upon startup. I know that my .emacs is
>> Tim> in good condition because other values are loaded with
>> Tim> no problems.
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Where else can I look to troubleshoot this?
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Thanks, Victor
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
>> Tim> -- regards,
>> Tim>
>> Tim> Tim
>> Tim>
>> Tim> -- Tim Cross
>> Tim>
>> Tim>
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