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Re: Patch for emacspeak 18.0 and Festival

Dear Robert,

First of all I want to thank you for your mail and the
attention you paid to my work. All your remarks were
very interesting for me. But you know, I am at the
very beginning of this work and document which was on my
web site was much more designed to used by
developers thant users of emacspeak who would like to test
the system I built. I made a big rewriting on this document
and wrote a special part for the installation of the
whole system.

Moreover I found that your remark about the safety of
this instllation was very important. The new version of
the patch preserves your existing installation of

But you know I have not much more time thant the users
that you mentioned in your mail ....

is now available at :


Please tell me if you encounter any problem.

From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Patch for emacspeak 18.0 and Festival
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:19:45 +0000 (UTC)

bob>    Since emacspeak was released to version 18.0, I made a new patch
bob>    for this version to be used with Festival.
bob>    It can be found at :
bob>    http://www.pollock-nageoire.net/emacspeak/readme-festival.index.html
bob>    I am still waiting for the reaction of anyone !
bob> I have looked at your site twice.  I read the essay but I could not
bob> figure out from it how to install your code safely in addition to
bob> espeakf and eflite, both of which I am running at the moment and both
bob> of which make use of Festival.  Indeed, the code comes as a patch to
bob> Emacspeak, which puts me off, since I do not want a patch.  (I update
bob> Emacspeak sources every day from the CVS repository.)  
     You can now patch safely just have enough space on your
     drive to have a second emacspeak source, and maybe
     a second festival source which is much more
     bigger !
bob> Perhaps the only solution is a patch.  In that case, what does Ramen
bob> think?  Why isn't it a part of the CVS already?  (He needs to be
bob> fairly confident in the code since he uses the code in the repository
bob> for his desktop; he cannot risk failures.  What procedures have you
bob> provided for testing?)
     Well I made number of tests on several machines with
     patches or simply modifying the codes. Nothing
     appeared which destroyed anything ....
bob> Over all, it looks to me that you are assuming that the reader both
bob> knows a great deal about Festival and Emacspeak and has time.  If this
bob> is so, you have found that people on the list either either know
bob> little or lack time or both.
     I lack time as well that's why the first announcement
     of my project was a bit technical. Please look at the
     changes now and tell me !
bob> This documentation policy is a mistake, since many of your potential
bob> users could, at least, tell you whether the program runs well for
bob> them.  They might even be able to go further and tell you that the
bob> program needs a feature to convert it from reading English to reading
bob> French or Spanish, or whatever.
bob> I am an example of someone who knows little and has less time.
bob> Nonetheless, I am currently running two instances of Emacspeak, one
bob> using the espeakf program, the other using the eflite program.  Both
bob> these programs depend on Festival.
bob> If someone told me how, and it did not take me to long to set up, I
bob> would run three instances of Emacspeak, each with its own software
bob> text-to-speech converter.  But you have not told me how to install the
bob> third one, so I am not doing that.
     I hope that now I told enough to allow you to install
     it but kep in mind that it is still a very experimental
     version and that many things has certainly to be improved !
bob> -- 
bob>     Robert J. Chassell                         Rattlesnake Enterprises
bob>     http://www.rattlesnake.com                  GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
bob>     http://www.teak.cc                             bob@rattlesnake.com

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