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Re: pulseaudio



Janina Sajka writes:
>Will Walker may correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Orca does
>anything with pulse audio. Rather, I think pulseaudio is being
>introduced by distributions. Specifically, I know for a fact that
>Fedora/Red Hat has moved to it in Fedora 8. In fact it's a bit of a
>problem as implemented in F-8, because it isn't launched until a gui
>login, and there's no audio access before that. And, after the login,
>there's still no root level access to audio--ever. I'm suggesting people
>remove it for now on F-8 installations.
As a datapoint, I followed these instructions but reinstalled it later
as a first look at why orca wasn't speaking.  emacspeak on a virtual
console was fine under either condition and under an initial runlevel
of 3 or 5.
cheers
Peter

>Janina
>
>T. V. Raman writes:
>> you dont need to even set up a .asoundrc on things like dapper
>> I  believe post alsa 1.10, dmix is configured by default
>> correctly. Why orca chose to add one more layer with pulseaudio
>> -- or why pulseaudio refuses to work with Alsa are all mysteries
>> I've not delved into -- but  I  do run orca and emacspeak on my
>> laptop on the rare occasions that I start orca -- and they do
>> both work happily with the emacspeak tts server.
>> 
>> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@rapttech.com.au> writes:
>>     Tim> It does work and it works quite well once you get the
>>     Tim> .asoundrc file sorted. This can be a bit tricky. For
>>     Tim> example, I found that the reason I couldn't get my
>>     Tim> soundcard to work was because it was a multi channel
>>     Tim> card and you had to use a specific device (in my case
>>     Tim> device 3) in order for the dmix plugin to work. Prior to
>>     Tim> working this out, I defined an 'emacspeak' device in my
>>     Tim> asoundrc file and then modified the sources to use that
>>     Tim> as the device rather than default. This had been the
>>     Tim> only way I could get outloud to work and still be able
>>     Tim> to play other sound sources.
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> What type of sound card do you have? Maybe someone else
>>     Tim> has a working .asoundrc file for that type of card?
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> Tim
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> getting mixing to work that th epro T. V. Raman writes:
>>     >> Alsa dmix works --- believe in it.
>>     >> 
>>     >> >>>>> "bart" == bart <bart@bunting.net.au> writes:
>>     bart> Yes, but what pulseaudio does is mix sound streams.  So
>>     bart> theoretically I could have two applications speaking at
>>     bart> the same time.  Although alsa's dmix is meant to do
>>     bart> this as well.  In practice it has never worked for me,
>>     bart> it does with some applications and not others even
>>     bart> though they are all using alsa.  Regards
>>     bart> 
>>     bart> Bart
>>     bart> 
>>     bart> Janina Sajka writes:
>>     >> >> Unless I misunderstand it, it's not an either or >>
>>     >> situation. I don't believe pulseaudio provides drivers for
>>     >> >> audio hardware. Rather, it's for managing user and >>
>>     >> application access.
>>     >> >> 
>>     >> >> The one use case on their site is about two people, a
>>     >> >> couple, logging in and out of the desktop without
>>     >> issues >> of audio access. Woefully insufficient, of
>>     >> course. We''' >> have to expand their thinking, I suspect.
>>     >> >> 
>>     >> >> Janina
>>     >> >> 
>>     >> >> bart@bunting.net.au writes:> Hi list,
>>     >> >> > 
>>     >> >> > Does anyone know what would be involved in getting
>>     >> the >> outloud speech server to use pulseaudio instead of
>>     >> alsa >> directly?
>>     >> >> > 
>>     >> >> > If this was done am I correct in assuming that
>>     >> emacspeak >> would be able to run along side orca if they
>>     >> are both >> using pulseaudio?
>>     >> >> > 
>>     >> >> > Has anyone already thought about this?
>>     >> >> > 
>>     >> >> > Regards
>>     >> >> > 
>>     >> >> > Bart
>>     >> >> > 
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>>     >> >> -- 
>>     >> >> 
>>     >> >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777;
>>     >> sip:janina@a11y.org >> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
>>     >> >> http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
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>>     bart> 
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>>     >> -- 
>>     >> Best Regards, --raman
>>     >> 
>>     >> 
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>>     Tim> 
>> -- 
>> Tim Cross tcross@rapttech.com.au
>>     Tim> 
>>     Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
>>     Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
>>     Tim> understand what they manage.
>>     Tim> 
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>> -- 
>> Best Regards,
>> --raman
>> 
>>       
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>
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>
>Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.202.595.7777;	sip:janina@a11y.org
>Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
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>Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada
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>
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>Linux Foundation		http://a11y.org
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