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Re: pulseaudio



pulseaudio if there or not should not be preventing use of the
audio device --I suspect FC8 is just misconfigured by default.

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Rayner <peter.rayner@lsce.ipsl.fr> writes:
    Peter> Janina Sajka writes:
    >> Will Walker may correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
    >> believe Orca does anything with pulse audio. Rather, I
    >> think pulseaudio is being introduced by
    >> distributions. Specifically, I know for a fact that
    >> Fedora/Red Hat has moved to it in Fedora 8. In fact it's a
    >> bit of a problem as implemented in F-8, because it isn't
    >> launched until a gui login, and there's no audio access
    >> before that. And, after the login, there's still no root
    >> level access to audio--ever. I'm suggesting people remove
    >> it for now on F-8 installations.
    Peter> As a datapoint, I followed these instructions but
    Peter> reinstalled it later as a first look at why orca
    Peter> wasn't speaking.  emacspeak on a virtual console was
    Peter> fine under either condition and under an initial
    Peter> runlevel of 3 or 5.  cheers Peter
    Peter> 
    >> Janina
    >> 
    >> T. V. Raman writes:
    >>> you dont need to even set up a .asoundrc on things like
    >>> dapper I believe post alsa 1.10, dmix is configured by
    >>> default correctly. Why orca chose to add one more layer
    >>> with pulseaudio -- or why pulseaudio refuses to work with
    >>> Alsa are all mysteries I've not delved into -- but I do
    >>> run orca and emacspeak on my laptop on the rare occasions
    >>> that I start orca -- and they do both work happily with
    >>> the emacspeak tts server.
    >>> 
    >>> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@rapttech.com.au> writes:
    Tim> It does work and it works quite well once you get the
    Tim> .asoundrc file sorted. This can be a bit tricky. For
    Tim> example, I found that the reason I couldn't get my
    Tim> soundcard to work was because it was a multi channel
    Tim> card and you had to use a specific device (in my case
    Tim> device 3) in order for the dmix plugin to work. Prior to
    Tim> working this out, I defined an 'emacspeak' device in my
    Tim> asoundrc file and then modified the sources to use that
    Tim> as the device rather than default. This had been the
    Tim> only way I could get outloud to work and still be able
    Tim> to play other sound sources.
    Tim> 
    Tim> What type of sound card do you have? Maybe someone else
    Tim> has a working .asoundrc file for that type of card?
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> 
    Tim> 
    Tim> getting mixing to work that th epro T. V. Raman writes:
    >>> >> Alsa dmix works --- believe in it.
    >>> >> 
    >>> >> >>>>> "bart" == bart <bart@bunting.net.au> writes:
    bart> Yes, but what pulseaudio does is mix sound streams.  So
    bart> theoretically I could have two applications speaking at
    bart> the same time.  Although alsa's dmix is meant to do
    bart> this as well.  In practice it has never worked for me,
    bart> it does with some applications and not others even
    bart> though they are all using alsa.  Regards
    bart> 
    bart> Bart
    bart> 
    bart> Janina Sajka writes:
    >>> >> >> Unless I misunderstand it, it's not an either or >>
    >>> >> situation. I don't believe pulseaudio provides drivers
    >>> for >> >> audio hardware. Rather, it's for managing user
    >>> and >> >> application access.
    >>> >> >> 
    >>> >> >> The one use case on their site is about two people,
    >>> a >> >> couple, logging in and out of the desktop without
    >>> >> issues >> of audio access. Woefully insufficient, of
    >>> >> course. We''' >> have to expand their thinking, I
    >>> suspect.
    >>> >> >> 
    >>> >> >> Janina
    >>> >> >> 
    >>> >> >> bart@bunting.net.au writes:> Hi list,
    >>> >> >> > 
    >>> >> >> > Does anyone know what would be involved in
    >>> getting >> the >> outloud speech server to use pulseaudio
    >>> instead of >> alsa >> directly?
    >>> >> >> > 
    >>> >> >> > If this was done am I correct in assuming that >>
    >>> emacspeak >> would be able to run along side orca if they
    >>> >> are both >> using pulseaudio?
    >>> >> >> > 
    >>> >> >> > Has anyone already thought about this?
    >>> >> >> > 
    >>> >> >> > Regards
    >>> >> >> > 
    >>> >> >> > Bart
    >>> >> >> > 
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    >>> >> Best Regards, --raman
    >>> >> 
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    Tim> 
>> -- 
>> Tim Cross tcross@rapttech.com.au
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.
    Tim> 
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    >> 
    >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org
    >> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
    >> http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
    >> 
    >> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in
    >> the U.S. and Canada Learn more at
    >> http://ScreenlessPhone.Com
    >> 
    >> Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation
    >> http://a11y.org
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