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Re: Compilation of espeak server for emacspeak35 on Debian Squeeze



Yes, I've heard it's supposed to be a feature, but I've never seen the
use case. And, it's a show stopper for the Speakup use case.

T. V. Raman writes:
> 
> I understnad the pause/resume - that is supposed to be a
> "feature" of pulseaudio:-)
> 
> >>>>> "Janina" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes:
>     Janina> I'm not sure you understood what I'm saying. If you
>     Janina> login on a couple consoles, say F1 and F2, Then on F1
>     Janina> you do something like mplayer somefile.wav, then do
>     Janina> Alt-F2, the mplayer process stops playing. When you
>     Janina> go back to Alt-F1 it resumes, just where it had been
>     Janina> interrupted.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> So, same permissions.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Yes, I suppose the root access problem might be
>     Janina> managed with permissions, but it should also work
>     Janina> over ssh, and doesn't.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> T. V. Raman writes:
>     >> 
>     >> I suspect you can fix that permission issue by adding
>     >> yourself to the right group -- it's also a safe guess that
>     >> you're losing perms to the pulseaudio devices when you're
>     >> not at the console.
>     >> 
>     >> >>>>> "Janina" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
>     >> writes:
>     Janina> Tim Cross writes:
>     >> >> 
>     >> >> Personally, I find it necessary to build espeak from
>     >> the >> dev sources and modify the espeak makefile so that
>     >> it >> links against pulseaudio rather than protaudio. The
>     >> >> default debian/ubuntu build is linked against
>     >> portaudio, >> which I find makes espeak more sluggish and
>     >> unresponsive >> than necessary. Others have reported never
>     >> geting >> pulsaudio working reliably and I seem to be
>     >> alone in this, >> but it works really well for me (I now
>     >> use pulsaudio for >> ViaVoice outlouad as well and no
>     >> longer require any >> .asoundrc file).
>     >> >> 
>     Janina> Interesting. I can see how this could work for
>     Janina> Emacspeak users just as it does for Orca.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Unfortunately, for those of us who also use Speakup,
>     Janina> pulse audio isn't an option inasmuch as it truncates
>     Janina> audio output as soon as one switches consoles,
>     Janina> e.g. Alt-F2.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> It's actually quite quaint in how it resumes playing
>     Janina> the stream exactly where it was interrupted when you
>     Janina> return to the original console.
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> But there's another reason why I don't see pulseaudio
>     Janina> being acceptable as an adequate solution, namely that
>     Janina> it denies audio device access to root. Go
>     Janina> figure. /dev/vcs* isn't denied to root, but audio
>     Janina> is. May you never see the dreaded "Give root password
>     Janina> for system maintenance."
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Janina
>     Janina> 
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>     >> 
>     >> -- 
>     >> Best Regards, --raman
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> --
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200
>     Janina> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux
>     Janina> Foundation http://a11y.org
>     Janina> 
>     Janina> Chair, Protocols & Formats Web Accessibility
>     Janina> Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide Web
>     Janina> Consortium (W3C)
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> --raman

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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
		sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net

Chair, Open Accessibility	janina@a11y.org	
Linux Foundation		http://a11y.org

Chair, Protocols & Formats
Web Accessibility Initiative	http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)

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