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Re: Speech Server Problem on Mac



Well I found out a bunch more stuff and I think most of the train wreck is back on the track and rolling again. Let me try and detail some of my most recent observations.

1. All the problems I discussed in my last message happen when I launch emacs.app from the doc. That is, I used Finder to navigate to /usr/local/cellar/emacs/emacs.app and added it to the dock.

2. In times past and what I'm doing again is to launch emacs.app from a shell script with the "open -a " command. When I do it this way or when I use "emacs -nw", emacspeak seems to work fine and I have no speech server failures.

3. When the problems I first reported occurred, I found that it was when the speech server was changing pitch or effect. I noticed this especially when in dired and I arrowed over directory and file names.

At least the show hasn't stopped for me now but I still have a question of why the speech server has so many problems when I launch from the Finder but if started with the "open -a" command from the shell, all works fine. Do recall that when launching the emacs.app from the shell, I still have cocoa compatibility as far as I can tell.

Thanks for putting up with my noise and questions. Also, thanks for the explanation about home-brew; I would like to learn more about that system; pretty clever I must say.

On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Koichi INOUE <inoue@argv.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> From the stacktrace, it seems that flac library file to which your sox
> depends on is removed by brew cleanup.  Your system may have newer
> version of flac but it is no longer referenced by sox library.
> This is common thing using Homebrew, because Homebrew does not maintain
> linkage between libraries.
> 
> You will need to
> 1. Reinstall sox by "brew reinstall sox". Now you have sox installation
> which is linked to newer flac library.
> 2. If the problem persists, also reinstall pysox
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> writes:
> 
>> Is there a way to get this going without having to use pyrex or pysox? As I stated in another thread, I can't seem to import these even in a stand-alone python shell and I have them supposedly installed. I used easy_install to put them in and the output looked successful. But ./mac craps out totally as follows. 
>> 
>> Script started on Tue Oct 15 22:13:34 2013
>> [?1034hbash-3.2$ ./mac
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>  File "./mac", line 11, in <module>
>>    import pysox
>>  File "build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/pysox/__init__.py", line 60, in <module>
>>  File "build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/pysox/sox.py", line 7, in <module>
>>  File "build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/pysox/sox.py", line 6, in __bootstrap__
>> ImportError: dlopen(/Users/steve/.python-eggs/pysox-0.3.6.alpha-py2.7-macosx-10.8-intel.egg-tmp/pysox/sox.so, 2): Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.8.2.0.dylib
>>  Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/libsox.2.dylib
>>  Reason: image not found
>> bash-3.2$ exit
>> exit
>> 
>> Script done on Tue Oct 15 22:14:10 2013
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 8:24 PM, David Tseng <davidtseng@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the kind words.
>>> 
>>> As for playing around, I would recommend checking out the py sox support. I explicitly exclude that particular code path for systems that don't have it installed since it can be tricky to get the underlying python module working, but once installed, the server should just pick it up.
>>> 
>>> In the selftest, I demonstrate a few of the things I felt would make the listening experience really shine. It's pretty easy to go overboard here, but some of the demos shown (like panning, echo, reverb, flanger, phaser, etc) could be used to give a subtle effect for very specific aural mappings.
>>> 
>>> As for multiple voices, the best way to play around with that at least to start with is with ChromeVox or VoiceOver since they both offer a simple way to try on a large set of UI's without doing much fiddling. Just make a change in either of their options/settings pages.
>>> 
>>> - David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Bart Bunting <bart@bunting.net.au> wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks also for the kind words.
>>> 
>>> I would be interested to hear your experiences with the mac speech
>>> server.
>>> 
>>> I know there are still a few rough edges and bits especially with
>>> voicification values that can be tweaked.
>>> 
>>> There is quite a limited set of options available with the mac voices
>>> with regards to speech parameters  that we can use.  Limited to volume,
>>> pitch and intonation which doesn't do much.
>>> 
>>> The newer mac voices have even less nobs to twist.
>>> 
>>> David and I have experimented with sox support to use that as a way of
>>> post processing sound to try and add more variation in speech.  It can
>>> be fiddly to get installed and working on mac though.
>>> 
>>> I am currently not really using that option but might be interested in
>>> trying to get it working better again.
>>> 
>>> The other thing I have done wich I find helpful is to install many of
>>> the optional mac voices and then customize emacspeak to use them for
>>> certain things e.g. dired etc.
>>> 
>>> This is a personal thing though and it depends on which voices you have
>>> installed and which ones you like.
>>> 
>>> Anyway sorry for the ramble, just thought some background info may have
>>> been helpful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Bart
>>> 
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