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Re: Production Version 42.0 Fails to Build



Thanks for digging here and finding this out. This brings up a
fundamental question though; Shouldn't a fresh tar ball not have any
compiled objects in it? I always figured these to be "clean
uncompiled" source and the local build / make process would compile
everything fresh.

Oh and I thought I had read that g-client wasn't active anymore. Am I
missing something here?

I just did a fresh extract of the 42.0 tar ball and did a make
clean. I then captured a list of .elc files. There seems to be quite a
few. I will include the list at bottom of this  message. Yep, I
removed *EVERY* .elc file in the working directory where I did this
test build and now tha make went through to completion.

I have seen several packages over the years have an additional make
target called dist-clean or something similar and That target was
intended to ready a package for source distributions. Personally, I
would have thought the regular clean target should do likewise but I
guess the clean target was intended for re-building in an existing
project. Anyway, enough rambling for now.

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 07:24:47PM +1000, Tim Cross wrote:
> OK, I think I've found the problem. As is often the case, everyone was a
> little right and everyone was a little wrong.
> 
> Raman is quite correct that the type of problem Steve and I saw is usually
> due to stale elc files built with a different version of emacs which are
> incompatible with the version being used for the build. This is often a
> sign of something wrong in the user's environment, but not in this case.
> 
> I believe that Steve was also correct in that his environment is setup OK
> and that there is a problem with the tarball.
> 
> It looks like make clean is failing to clean out all the *.elc files. In
> particular, it is not cleaning out elc files in the lisp/g-client
> subdirectory. Unfortunately, the tarball includes these elc files, which I
> presume have been built with the version of emacs Raman is running. As a
> result, when you try to build emacspeak from the tarball, it is likely to
> fail if your using a different version of emafcs than the one Raman is
> using. As soon as I remove these elc files and then run make clean, make
> config and make emacspeak, it all works and emacspeak builds. I also found
> that clean is failing to remove the file sounds/default-8k/define-theme.elc
> 
> I guess the solution is to modify the clean target in the makefile so that
> it cleans out g-client and I guess create an updated tarball for the
> download site.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2015 at 21:14, Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for confirming this, Tim. I seriously doubt my emacs environment is
> > as broken as was claimed earlier. Besides, when someone claims something as
> > strongly as that and offers no further details, How the hell would I be
> > able to fix it? I have what I believe to be a fairly simple configuration
> > of emacs for local packages but emacs itself, is strait from a production
> > package with my distro (version 24.4).
> >
> > Further more, when I have a successful build of this package, what I
> > upload to the Arch User repository is just a package containing a build
> > script along with some parameters that set proper paths and such. The user
> > downloads this package, runs it and that will fetch the base tar ball and
> > compile/build it. The AUR doesn’t distribute pre-built binaries.
> >
> > Tim, I will be curious about what you find.
> >
> > > On May 4, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Tim Cross <tcross@une.edu.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Just FYI - no investigation yet, but I downloaded the tar.bz2 file from
> > sourceforge for version 42, unpacked it in a clean directory, did a make
> > clean, make config and make emacspeak and got the same error Steve has been
> > seeing. This is with emacs 24.5 built from the official release source
> > tarball.
> > >
> > > I didn’t have time to dig any deeper this morning before work, but will
> > attempt to look at it after work today.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > > <une.png>
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim Cross
> > >
> > > IT Security Manager
> > > Information Technology Directorate
> > >
> > > University of New England
> > > Armidale N.S.W. 2351 Australia
> > >
> > > Email: tcross@une.edu.au
> > > Phone: +61 2 6773 3210
> > > Mobile: +61 428 212 217
> > >
> > >> On 5 May 2015, at 12:36 am, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> writes:
> > >>    Steve> On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 06:56:12PM -0700, T. V. Raman
> > >>    Steve> wrote:
> > >>>> Suspect you need to do a make clean first followed by a
> > >>>> make config.
> > >>    Steve>
> > >>    Steve> No go. I cleared out previous source and pkg
> > >> "Cleared out pkg directory"
> > >> is not "make clean; make config"
> > >>
> > >>    Steve> directories and I still get the error.
> > >>    Steve>
> > >>    Steve> emacspeak-eww.el:62:1:Error: Symbol's function
> > >>    Steve> definition is void: cl-struct-define
> > >>    Steve>
> > >>    Steve> I also included 'make clean' before my 'make config'
> > >>    Steve> line but still the error above. It's gotta be
> > >> Your emacs world is badly configured
> > >>
> > >> Decide what emacs you're going to use then specify the full path
> > >> during build
> > >> make config EMACS=<emacspath>
> > >> make EMACS=<emacspath>
> > >>
> > >> I would not recommend distributing a package you build in a
> > >> semi-broken environment.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>    Steve> something else.
> > >>    Steve>
> > >>    Steve> I have a similar build procedure for the git version
> > >>    Steve> and that one compiles fine.
> > >>    Steve>
> > >>    Steve>
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> 
> -- 
> regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> --
> Tim Cross

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