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Re: [Emacspeak] Github Issue Threads and Mailing List



sr.ht or sourcehut, is an open source GPL based alternative to
Microsoft's github. It tries to avoid requring lots of javascript, which
often has proprietary and non-free licenses and it tries to provide
support for a completely email driven workflow. It was originally
inspired by people posting to the emacs list who wanted a github like
experience without being forced to use non-free software or forced to
use a web based workflow.

One of the main objectives for the sourcehut developers is to provide a
more modern development and maintenance experience for Emacs which would
encourage greater communityh participation (this is assuming that the
perceived old fashioned sevannah envrionment where emacs is currently
hosted is a significant impediment to community participation, which I'm
not sure it is). 

John Covici <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> What is sr.ht?  Also, how to use github from the command line -- never
> heard of how to do that.
>
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 22:34:49 -0500,
> Robert Melton (via emacspeak Mailing List) wrote:
>> 
>> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
>> Not pushing for it in anyway, but just as an FYI for those interested. 
>> 
>> sr.ht actually is completely accessible from the command line hut 
>> tool, they actually go beyond gh, as I believe every last feature of 
>> the website is supported.
>> 
>> Additionally, the entire website and all features work 100% without 
>> javascript so the experience is eww is actually pleasant. 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 6, 2024, at 20:59, T.V Raman <raman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 1+ on both points.
>> > 
>> > A good thing about Github is that the commandline gh lets you do
>> > everything you can on the Web, and by limiting ourselves to using
>> > email for most things and using gh to close issues, we get to be
>> > relatively   free of getting too tangled into the Github Web mess.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Tim Cross writes:
>> >> 
>> >>> For now, I'll recommend the lazy solution: do nothing, just remember to
>> >>> CC the list. Let's see how that scales.
>> >> 
>> >> Always like the lazy approach!
>> >> 
>> >> More seriously, I do feel this needs some carful thought. We want to get
>> >> the right balance here. I think the point about early issue discussions
>> >> often not being of much value to the list generally is quite
>> >> relevant. We don't want too much 'noise' on the list.
>> >> 
>> >> Ideally, we probably want the ability to send interersting threads from
>> >> issues to the list - those which show how to solve a common problem or
>> >> those which show how people can investigate, tweak or otherwise improve
>> >> their emacspeak configuration.
>> >> 
>> >> As a trial and to see how useful the list finds it, I'd agree that what
>> >> we should do is just CC the list when an issue seems worthwhile to share
>> >> with everyone.
>> >> 
>> >> BTW the point Robert mentioned regarding sourcehut mayu be worth
>> >> consideration. One of the main aims of sourcehut was to have workflow
>> >> driven primarily via email instead of JS based web interfaces. Any
>> >> workflow which does not include JS dependencies is likely going to be
>> >> better from an emacs and emacspeak perspective.
>> > 
>> > --
>> 
>> --
>> Robert "robertmeta" Melton
>> lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
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