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Hugh,

Probably the best place to start with respect to VM is to use the same
vm customization as Raman does. If your using emacspeak 17 or 16,
there is a customize setting which will set VM up in the same
way. Have a look at the emacspeak customization group (M-x
customize-group <RET> emacspeak <RET>). It will provide some solutions
to the things you mention. For example, I don't think Raman's settings
use the summary window - this eliminates your problem of working out
how to switch from the summary to the message etc. 

With respect to surfing the web - this is possibly emacs weakest
area. Lately, I've been using the w3m browser and the w3m.el package
which allows you to run it via emacs and there is an emacspeak-w3m.el
extension (you will alredy have that). The Emacs W3 project really
needs contributors to help get that project re-energized. Different
users get different milage out of emacs w3. I cannot use it at work at
all because it won't work properly with the proxy server we have
there. However, I did use it for a long time under emacs 20 and
earlier and found it great - unfortunatley, I don't think it has been
able to keep up with emacs (emacs changed a lot between 20 and 21). 

In addition to w3m as a browser, I think there is also an emacspeak
interface for the lynx browser, but I've never used it myself. 

Tim



>>>>> "Hugh" == Hugh Esco <hesco@greens.org> writes:

 Hugh> Hello: With help from folks on this list, I finally got
 Hugh> emacspeak up and running on a used machine I built for my
 Hugh> friend Adam.  He has worked his way through the tutorial and is
 Hugh> now ready for the next step.

 Hugh> I'm want to next teach him how to use w3 for browsing and vm
 Hugh> for email.  I have both installed on his machine and have been
 Hugh> able to use them myself, somewhat successfully -- but only
 Hugh> because I get to use my eyes to see where the cursor is.  I'm
 Hugh> having trouble figuring out how to reliably change buffers in
 Hugh> vm and navigate from the inbox summary to the body of a message
 Hugh> and back again.  I've been completely lost on how to teach Adam
 Hugh> how to do this.

 Hugh> The documentation I have found on vm is sketchy at best.  Can
 Hugh> someone out there on this list please refer me to a definitive
 Hugh> guide on vm -- or at least something that devotes more than two
 Hugh> pages to its use?

 Hugh> Is there anyone who uses vm who would be willing to share their
 Hugh> phone number and to let me give you a call from Adam's one day
 Hugh> for some coaching on how to use his email client.

 Hugh> As soon as Adam is up and reading his own email and browsing
 Hugh> the web I'm sure there will be no stopping him.  But learning
 Hugh> to get on line and to pull and read email has proven quite a
 Hugh> stumbling block, mainly due to the lack of documentation.  My
 Hugh> next tutoring session with him is tomorrow afternoon or
 Hugh> evening.

 Hugh> Please help.

 Hugh> -- Hugh Esco

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