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Re: software dectalk tones



:-)

I checked in a custom option dtk-use-tones that obviates the need for
the one-liner advice.
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@pobox.une.edu.au> writes:

    Tim> ya just gotta love defadvice!

    Tim> I think it has become my favorite feature of emacs - in the
    Tim> last week alone I have used it twice to fix/change the
    Tim> behavior of a couple of functions which were not working
    Tim> quite right or how I wanted them to.

    Tim> Just putting a defadvice in the scratch buffer, evaluating
    Tim> and testing and then adding to my .emacs took all of about 5
    Tim> minutes to fix a problem with url-expand-filename I was
    Tim> having with certain html e-mails and vm. No chasing down the
    Tim> source of url-expand-filename, modifying/testing and worrying
    Tim> about changes being lost with updates or being incompatible
    Tim> etc. and if I don't want it, I can turn it off or just remove
    Tim> it from my .emacs to get rid of it permanently. All of this
    Tim> and I'm still running the same emacs session - no restarts or
    Tim> interruptions.

    Tim> The only downside to this and getting to know both emacs and
    Tim> common lisp, which I've been working on for the last few
    Tim> months, is I now find it incredibly frustrating and
    Tim> irritating having to work with cumbersome languages like
    Tim> java, perl, plsql etc each day at work.

    Tim> Lisp has spoilt me and now things will never be the same!

    Tim> Tim

>>>>> "T" == T V Raman <raman@cs.cornell.edu> writes:

    T> Alternatively add the following to your .emacs: (defadvice
    T> dtk-tone (around silence-tones pre act comp) nil)>>>>> "Robert"
    T> == Robert Murray <rob@mur.org.uk> writes:

    Robert> Hi Indentation is fine, I already have it spoken.  It's
    Robert> the other tones, such as when deleting or reading the mode
    Robert> line.

    Robert> I think the easiest solution for now is to edit the
    Robert> dtk-soft script and make the tones do nothing.

    Robert> Thanks

    Robert> Rob

    Robert> On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:13:35AM +1000, Tim Cross wrote:
    >>>> There is an option within emacspeak to use spoken indent
    >>>> indicator rather than tone. Use customize to set this. e.g.
    >>>> 
    >>>> M-x customize-group <ret> emacspeak-speak <ret>
    >>>> 
    >>>> then go to the emacspeak indentation method item and set it
    >>>> to speak. Save the changes and you should be done.
    >>>> 
    >>>> Tim >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Murray <rob@mur.org.uk> writes:
    >>>> 
    Robert> Hi I've noticed a rather annoying problem with the
    Robert> software dectalk.  There is a delay before it plays tones.
    Robert> This is not an emacspeak problem, because it happens with
    Robert> the say command and the demo program as well.  Are other
    Robert> people experiencing this?
    >>>>
    Robert> Is there an easy way to turn off tones in emacspeak?  This
    Robert> problem makes things like reading the mode line and
    Robert> switching buffers very slow to respond.
    >>>>
    Robert> Apart from this problem, the software dectalk is working
    Robert> really well, and it's great not to have to carry the
    Robert> dectalk express arround with me.
    >>>>
    Robert> Cheers
    >>>>
    Robert> Rob
    >>>>
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    >>>> Information Technology University of New England Phone: +61 2
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    >>>> 
    >>>> "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most
    >>>> experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're
    >>>> computer professionals.  We cause accidents."  -Nathaniel
    >>>> Borenstein
    >>>> 
    >>>> 

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    Tim> -- Tim Cross Senior Analyst/Programmer Applications Group -
    Tim> Information Technology University of New England Phone: +61 2
    Tim> 6773 3210 Fax: +61 2 6773 3424 E-Mail:
    Tim> tcross@pobox.une.edu.au Web:
    Tim> http://www.une.edu.au/itd/systems/systems.html --- Please
    Tim> avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.  See
    Tim> http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

    Tim> "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most
    Tim> experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're
    Tim> computer professionals.  We cause accidents."  -Nathaniel
    Tim> Borenstein

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--raman

      
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