thanks Raman. However, thats pretty much the first test I tried. I've not had time to look at this over the last week, but hope to investigate further. I've found I can build the GTK version from source on Debian testing, but it fails on Debian unstable. I've managed to repeat this on 5 different systems. Running testing, all appears fine, but on Unstable it shows the problems I've listed in a consistent manner. It appears that whatever the problem is, its quite subtle and difficult to nail down. I'm still attempting to develop a clear test case. will keep plugging away at it in my spare time. Tim T. V. Raman writes: > > Here is a simple test case for you to run against your failing > emacs-gtk > > In the scracth buffer, evaluate these lines in sequence, and run > M-x foo each time. Notice that the advice gets evaluated and > defined correctly. > > (defun foo () > (interactive) > (message "I'm foo.")) > (defadvice foo (after first pre act comp)(message "After foo")) > > (defadvice foo (after second pre act comp)(message "son of foo.")) > > > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > Tim> Hi Raman, I think you misunderstood me. I don't want you > Tim> to grab a pre-built version. I wanted to ask if you > Tim> wouldn't mind checking the describe function information > Tim> with the version you have already built from CVS. I'm > Tim> already working with the package maintainer to see if > Tim> the problem lies there. > Tim> > Tim> The issue I'm encountering is subtle and is only > Tim> revealed iff you have extra advice defined for view-file > Tim> other than emacspeak. Just running emacspeak without any > Tim> non-emacspeak advice defined does not reveal the problem > Tim> and therefore would not necessarily show up in a simple > Tim> test. > Tim> > Tim> All I wanted was some confirmation that the > Tim> describe-function operation run on view-file in your CVS > Tim> version of GTK emacs is correctly reporting that the > Tim> function has been advised. The version I am running is > Tim> not reporting this correctly on my system and I wanted > Tim> to verify that yours is correct as this would indicate I > Tim> have some other issue on my system not related to the > Tim> CVS sources or the packaged version. > Tim> > Tim> To summerise > Tim> > Tim> - After starting emacs 22 GTK version and loading > Tim> emacspeak, do a C-h f view-file. Scroll to the bottom of > Tim> the output where it should say "This function is advised > Tim> etc". If it does not, try an apropos on view-file and > Tim> see if you have an entry for ad-Orig-view-file. Note > Tim> that at this point, view-file appears to work perfectly > Tim> fine. If you do see this inconsistency, you will then > Tim> find if you load my txutils.el utility and repeat the > Tim> process, both the emacspeak and txutils advice are > Tim> reported, but now view-file is broken and will generate > Tim> a backtrace if debug on error is enabled. > Tim> > Tim> If you can do this check, it would be appreciated. If > Tim> you can't, then don't worry. I will have my download > Tim> quota renewed in a couple of weeks and will grab a fresh > Tim> copy of the CVS and build my self to check. > Tim> > Tim> BTW Note that none of this inconsistency in reporting of > Tim> advice or any of the other issues exist in the non-GTK > Tim> version, which is built from exactly the same sources. > Tim> > Tim> Tim > Tim> > Tim> T. V. Raman writes: > >> > >> Tim, > >> > >> I dont trust pre-built versions of Emacs, so I'm not going > >> to pull a particular build of Emacs that you might have > >> gotten. > >> > >> It looks like you have a bad build as best as I can tell. > >> > >> The trust-worthy means of verifying if there is a problem > >> with Emacs built against GTK is to: > >> > >> A) Pull the CVS version of Emacs 22 B) ./configure > >> --with-toolkit=gtk > >> > >> I've done this last week and as you saw, it did not > >> reproduce the bizarre behavior you're reporting. I > >> suggest you write to the person who built the emacs-gtk > >> that you pulled. > >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <email@example.com> writes: > Tim> Hi Raman, I've updated to a later version of emacs 22 > Tim> GTK version (from 1st May) and I'm still getting the > Tim> same problem. However, I have noticed something else a > Tim> little odd. I was wondering if you could check the > Tim> version you have to see if it is the same. > Tim> > Tim> After starting emacs 22 GTK version with emacspeak > Tim> loaded, if I do a describe function on view-file, it > Tim> does not mention anything about the function being > Tim> advised. However, if I do an apropos for view-file, > Tim> there is a ad-Orig-view-file entry. > Tim> > Tim> If I do the same thing with the non-GTK version, the > Tim> describe function returns the expected note at the end > Tim> about the function being advised by emacspeak. So, it > Tim> looks like something is not right as they should both > Tim> report exactly the same thing. > Tim> > Tim> Note that view-file works fine until you load another > Tim> piece of advice on that function. Then you get the > Tim> max-lisp-eval-depth exceeded error. This does not occur > Tim> with the non-GTK version. > Tim> > Tim> In my case, this problem arises with my txutils package > Tim> as it defines some advice on view-file. Note that there > Tim> are no issues if I load my package without emacspeak. It > Tim> is only when the two are loaded the error occurs. > Tim> > Tim> Could you start emacs 22 GTK version and just have a > Tim> look at the describe function for view-file and see if > Tim> it reports that the function has been advised. If it > Tim> doesn't, then we either have an issue with emacspeak or > Tim> with the GTK version of emacs. > Tim> > Tim> thanks, > Tim> > Tim> Tim > Tim> > Tim> P.S. I have also setup an old box and am using this for > Tim> testing. I'm not loading any other packages apart from > Tim> emacspeak and my txutils utility. This is to eliminate > Tim> the chance of the problem being due to some unexpected > Tim> interaction with another package that is being > Tim> loaded. I'm trying to get things down to a bare minimum. > Tim> -- Tim Cross firstname.lastname@example.org > Tim> > Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not > Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not > Tim> understand what they manage. > Tim> > Tim> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your > Tim> address on the emacspeak list send mail to > Tim> "email@example.com" with a subject of > Tim> "unsubscribe" or "help" > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, --raman > >> > >> > >> Email: firstname.lastname@example.org WWW: > >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: > >> email@example.com PGP: > >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: > >> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs > Tim> > Tim> -- Tim Cross firstname.lastname@example.org > Tim> > Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not > Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not > Tim> understand what they manage. > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman > > > Email: email@example.com > WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ > AIM: emacspeak GTalk: firstname.lastname@example.org > PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc > Google: tv+raman > IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the > emacspeak list send mail to "email@example.com" with a > subject of "unsubscribe" or "help" > -- Tim Cross firstname.lastname@example.org There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they understand and those who do not understand what they manage. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "email@example.com" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help"
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