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RE: Playing music and a tailpiece



To clarify, Emacspeak *does* not have functionality present in
EMMS. I use EMMS for many things, which is why 
 Emacspeak speech-enables EMMS   via emacspeak-emms

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@rapttech.com.au> writes:
    Tim> Essentially EMMS is a wrapper around a media
    Tim> player. However, it has some nice features for managing
    Tim> your media, playlists, audio streams etc, so its a bit
    Tim> more than just a wrapper. EMMS stands for emacs
    Tim> multi-media system, so really it tries to be a cmplete
    Tim> solution for managing and accessing multimedia content.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Of course, emacspeak has much the same functionality,
    Tim> but as I don't always just use emacspeak, I like to have
    Tim> my functionality packaged so that I'm not too dependent
    Tim> on just one interface solution.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> 
    Tim> Steve Holmes writes:
    >> Hey, what more can you tell us about emms? Is it a wrapper
    >> to launch mplayer or is it a complete player unto itself?
    >> Mplayer is so powerful natively because it can play nearly
    >> any media you throw at it.
    >> 
    >> >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Cross
    >> [mailto:tcross@rapttech.com.au] >Sent: Sunday, August 26,
    >> 2007 4:49 AM >To: Kalyan Mukherjea >Cc: Emacspeak
    >> MailingList >Subject: Re:Playing music and a tailpiece
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >Kalyan,
    >> >
    >> >just a couple of tips.
    >> >
    >> >firstly, rebooting should always be the absolutely last
    >> resort. A reboot is >like using a bazooka to hunt rabbits.
    >> >
    >> >Second, when you use C-e ; you are put into a special
    >> mplayer interactive >buffer, wehre you can do things like
    >> change volume, skip forward, skip >back, speedup, slow
    >> down, load another media resource and many other
    >> >things. Perhaps, the most important character for you is
    >> q. This will quit >the mode and stop mplayer.
    >> >
    >> >I do find there is a lot of spoken text initially -
    >> diagnostic output from >mplayer. I suspect I can stop this
    >> by passing a 'quiet switch to mplayer, >but I've not
    >> bothered to look into it. To be honest, I use emms rather
    >> than >the emacspeak media stuff. This is for no other
    >> reason than I started using >emms first and because I
    >> prefer to try an use other packages to do things >like
    >> this rather than putting absolutely everything into
    >> emacspeak - thats >just a personal preference. It also
    >> means that on occasion, when emacspeak >is causing me
    >> problems, I can switch to something else, like
    >> >speech-dispatcher with minimal loss of functionality.
    >> >
    >> >The noise you are hearing when you first start playing a
    >> bit of media is >possibly the result of interaction
    >> between emacspeak speech, the media >content and how your
    >> ALSA soundcard is configured. I still find the ALSA >stuff
    >> less than intuitive - only a few weeks ago, I figured out
    >> the reason >my multi-channel soundcard wasn't working
    >> correctly was because only the >last of the three channels
    >> it provided actually supported multiple sound >sources -
    >> once I configured my .asoundrc file to use the 3rd channel
    >> rather >than the first, everything has worked fine.
    >> >
    >> >Finally, I wonder why you are running X if your totally
    >> blind? In such a >situation, you really using resources
    >> for no gain. performance would >probably improve if you
    >> aren't running an X server. Try playing around in >the
    >> console and if yo find it works well, consider not running
    >> X (there are >several ways of doing this - probably the
    >> easiest is booting into a non-X >runlevel. Not sure which
    >> runlevel that would be with fedora these days.
    >> >
    >> >Oh, and I also think Raman has done a lot of work on the
    >> media stuff since >version 25. An upgrade may improve
    >> things for you.
    >> >
    >> >Tim >Kalyan Mukherjea writes:
    >> > >
    >> > > I had sent the following in response to the discussion
    >> between Steve > > and Raman > > as a "Reply to all" from a
    >> VM buffer containing Raman's letter. It > > bounced back
    >> from Raman's ISP saying that my letter was spam! This is >
    >> > just to notify Raman since I could not go to the
    >> recommended site to > > correct their impression about my
    >> letter.
    >> > >
    >> > > My original letter follows > > and the bounceing
    >> message after my letter and a row of *'s.
    >> > >
    >> > > Hi List, > > T. V. Raman writes:
    >> > >
    >> > > > I suggest you investigate things before assuming
    >> things. C-e; on > > > a dired-line plays the file under
    >> point.
    >> > >
    >> > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :'
    >> keychords > > successfully!  > > I have realplay and
    >> mplayer installed. But doing either of these > > keychords
    >> does not have the desired effect.
    >> > >
    >> > > I play mp3 files by opening a terminal (M-x term) > >
    >> cd-ing to the directory where I keep my music files
    >> (~/music/) > > then typing mplayer foo.mp3 > > then C-e d
    >> q and then press RET.
    >> > >
    >> > > The mp3 files play and all the key commands of mplayer
    >> can be used.
    >> > >
    >> > > If I do not do `C-e d q' before pressing RET there is
    >> a lot of > > gurgling noises for a few seconds and then
    >> silence. The `term' buffer > > is filled with mplayer
    >> announcements about how it was compiled etc.
    >> > >
    >> > > I tried `C-e ;' on a dired buffer showing the mp3
    >> files in ~/music/ > > and as soon as I typed the keychord
    >> `C-e ;' there was a very loud > > rangling (cross between
    >> rattling and ringing) noise and then the > > music started
    >> playing. The quality is much better than on the terminal >
    >> > but the rangling does not stop. Emacspeak stops
    >> responding and if I > > quit X using Alt+Ctrl+Backspace
    >> thenthe music stops and I can hear the > > mplayer
    >> announcements going on. Rebooting is the only way to stop
    >> > > this.
    >> > >
    >> > > What is going on?
    >> > >
    >> > > My system is running FC 3 with Emacs -21 and
    >> Emacspeak-25.0 revision > > 4289 4293.
    >> > >
    >> > > Any help will be appreciated.
    >> > >
    >> > > Cheers.  > > Kalyan
    >> > > ******************************************************************
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    >> 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Kalyan Mukherjea
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    >> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:33:25 +0530 > > To: raman@users.sf.net
    >> > > Cc: steve@holmesgrown.com, > > emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu
    >> > > Subject: Re: Playing Music from Dired > > In-Reply-To:
    >> <18126.56738.756489.144838@gargle.gargle.HOWL> > >
    >> References: <20070822130427.GA5268@pillow.lan> > >
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    >> <18126.56738.756489.144838@gargle.gargle.HOWL> > >
    >> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1
    >> > >
    >> > > Hi List, > > T. V. Raman writes:
    >> > >
    >> > > > I suggest you investigate things before assuming
    >> things. C-e; on > > > a dired-line plays the file under
    >> point.
    >> > >
    >> > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :'
    >> keychords > > successfully!  > > I have realplay and
    >> mplayer installed. But doing either of these > > keychords
    >> does not have the desired effect.
    >> > >
    >> > > ----- Message truncated -----
    >> > >
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    >> >
    >> >--
    >> >Tim Cross >tcross@rapttech.com.au
    >> >
    >> >There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    >> manage what they >understand and those who do not
    >> understand what they manage.
    >> >
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Tim Cross tcross@rapttech.com.au
    Tim> 
    Tim> There are two types of people in IT - those who do not
    Tim> manage what they understand and those who do not
    Tim> understand what they manage.
    Tim> 
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