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RE: Playing music and a tailpiece



Essentially EMMS is a wrapper around a media player. However, it has some
nice features for managing your media, playlists, audio streams etc, so its
a bit more than just a wrapper. EMMS stands for emacs multi-media system,
so really it tries to be a cmplete solution for managing and accessing
multimedia content. 

Of course, emacspeak has much the same functionality, but as I don't always
just use emacspeak, I like to have my functionality packaged so that I'm
not too dependent on just one interface solution.

Tim


Steve Holmes writes:
 > Hey, what more can you tell us about emms? Is it a wrapper to launch mplayer
 > or is it a complete player unto itself? Mplayer is so powerful natively
 > because it can play nearly any media you throw at it.
 > 
 > >-----Original Message-----
 > >From: Tim Cross [mailto:tcross@rapttech.com.au]
 > >Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:49 AM
 > >To: Kalyan Mukherjea
 > >Cc: Emacspeak MailingList
 > >Subject: Re:Playing music and a tailpiece
 > >
 > >
 > >Kalyan,
 > >
 > >just a couple of tips.
 > >
 > >firstly, rebooting should always be the absolutely last resort. A reboot is
 > >like using a bazooka to hunt rabbits.
 > >
 > >Second, when you use C-e ; you are put into a special mplayer interactive
 > >buffer, wehre you can do things like change volume, skip forward, skip
 > >back, speedup, slow down, load another media resource and many other
 > >things. Perhaps, the most important character for you is q. This will quit
 > >the mode and stop mplayer.
 > >
 > >I do find there is a lot of spoken text initially - diagnostic output from
 > >mplayer. I suspect I can stop this by passing a 'quiet switch to mplayer,
 > >but I've not bothered to look into it. To be honest, I use emms rather than
 > >the emacspeak media stuff. This is for no other reason than I started using
 > >emms first and because I prefer to try an use other packages to do things
 > >like this rather than putting absolutely everything into emacspeak - thats
 > >just a personal preference. It also means that on occasion, when emacspeak
 > >is causing me problems, I can switch to something else, like
 > >speech-dispatcher with minimal loss of functionality.
 > >
 > >The noise you are hearing when you first start playing a bit of media is
 > >possibly the result of interaction between emacspeak speech, the media
 > >content and how your ALSA soundcard is configured. I still find the ALSA
 > >stuff less than intuitive - only a few weeks ago, I figured out the reason
 > >my multi-channel soundcard wasn't working correctly was because  only the
 > >last of the three channels it provided actually supported multiple sound
 > >sources - once I configured my .asoundrc file to use the 3rd channel rather
 > >than the first, everything has worked fine.
 > >
 > >Finally, I wonder why you are running X if your totally blind? In such a
 > >situation, you really using resources for no gain. performance would
 > >probably improve if you aren't running an X server. Try playing around in
 > >the console and if yo find it works well, consider not running X (there are
 > >several ways of doing this - probably the easiest is booting into a non-X
 > >runlevel. Not sure which runlevel that would be with fedora these days.
 > >
 > >Oh, and I also think Raman has done a lot of work on the media stuff since
 > >version 25. An upgrade may improve things for you.
 > >
 > >Tim
 > >Kalyan Mukherjea writes:
 > > >
 > > > I had sent the following in response to the discussion between Steve
 > > > and Raman
 > > > as a "Reply to all"  from a VM buffer containing Raman's letter. It
 > > > bounced back from Raman's ISP saying that my letter was spam! This is
 > > > just to notify Raman since I could not go to the recommended site to
 > > > correct their impression about my letter.
 > > >
 > > > My original letter follows
 > > > and the bounceing message after my letter and a row of *'s.
 > > >
 > > > Hi List,
 > > > T. V. Raman writes:
 > > >
 > > >  > I suggest you investigate things before assuming things. C-e; on
 > > >  > a dired-line  plays the file under point.
 > > >
 > > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :' keychords
 > > > successfully!
 > > > I have realplay  and mplayer installed. But doing either of these
 > > > keychords does not have the desired effect.
 > > >
 > > > I play mp3 files by opening a terminal (M-x term)
 > > > cd-ing to the directory where I keep my music files (~/music/)
 > > > then typing mplayer foo.mp3
 > > > then C-e d q and then press RET.
 > > >
 > > > The mp3 files play and all the key commands of mplayer can be used.
 > > >
 > > > If I do not do `C-e d q' before pressing RET  there  is a lot of
 > > > gurgling noises for a few seconds and then silence. The `term' buffer
 > > > is filled with mplayer announcements about how it was compiled etc.
 > > >
 > > > I tried `C-e ;' on a dired buffer showing the mp3 files in ~/music/
 > > > and as soon as I typed the keychord `C-e ;' there was a very loud
 > > > rangling (cross between  rattling and ringing) noise and then the
 > > > music started playing. The quality is much better than on the terminal
 > > > but the rangling does not stop. Emacspeak stops responding and if I
 > > > quit X using Alt+Ctrl+Backspace thenthe music stops and I can hear the
 > > > mplayer announcements going on. Rebooting is the only way to stop
 > > > this.
 > > >
 > > > What is going on?
 > > >
 > > > My system is running FC 3 with Emacs -21 and  Emacspeak-25.0 revision
 > > > 4289 4293.
 > > >
 > > > Any help will be appreciated.
 > > >
 > > > Cheers.
 > > > Kalyan
 > > > ******************************************************************
 > > >
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 > > >
 > > >      raman@users.sf.net
 > > >
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 > > >    ----- Original message -----
 > > >
 > > > Received: by 10.115.60.1 with SMTP id n1mr2981554wak.1188108111963;
 > > >         Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
 > > > Return-Path: <kalyan.infinity@gmail.com>
 > > > Received: from localhost ( [59.93.194.43])
 > > >         by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
 > >k23sm7080315waf.2007.08.25.23.01.46
 > > >         (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
 > > >         Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
 > > > From: Kalyan Mukherjea <kalyan.infinity@gmail.com>
 > > > MIME-Version: 1.0
 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 > > > Message-ID: <18129.6061.225928.387464@kalyan.localdomain>
 > > > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:33:25 +0530
 > > > To: raman@users.sf.net
 > > > Cc: steve@holmesgrown.com,
 > > >     emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu
 > > > Subject: Re: Playing Music from Dired
 > > > In-Reply-To: <18126.56738.756489.144838@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 > > > References: <20070822130427.GA5268@pillow.lan>
 > > > 	<20070823000431.52DE812A4071@localhost>
 > > > 	<20070823165426.GA2347@lnx3.holmesgrown.com>
 > > > 	<18126.56738.756489.144838@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 > > > X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1
 > > >
 > > > Hi List,
 > > > T. V. Raman writes:
 > > >
 > > >  > I suggest you investigate things before assuming things. C-e; on
 > > >  > a dired-line  plays the file under point.
 > > >
 > > > I have never been able to use the `C-e ;' or `C-e :' keychords
 > > > successfully!
 > > > I have realplay  and mplayer installed. But doing either of these
 > > > keychords does not have the desired effect.
 > > >
 > > >    ----- Message truncated -----
 > > >
 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > >-----
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 > > >
 > >
 > >--
 > >Tim Cross
 > >tcross@rapttech.com.au
 > >
 > >There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they
 > >understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
 > >
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Tim Cross
tcross@rapttech.com.au

There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
understand and those who do not understand what they manage.

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