Re: Emacs 23: next-line and previous-line

[Steve Holmes <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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I wondered if it came down to that.  My display is 128 chars wide so
the wrapping happens less often.  I think I will be putting in that
option as well.  It does seem like a bad idea to have changed this
behavior.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:14:09PM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
> 
> Essentially, the difference is that when a long line wraps, the cursor
> won't just jump to the next 'real' line when you move down. Instead, it
> will move to the second wrapped section of the line you were already
> on. The downside from an emacspeak perspective is that the whole line gets
> read again. . The old behavior would have been for emacs to move to the
> second real line regardless of how many wrapped lines the first line
> created. 
> 
> To answer your specific question, if the line does not wrap, there is no
> issue. whether th eline wraps depends on how wide your display is. So, as
> long as your display is wider than 80 characters, you won't notice anything
> for lines up to 80 characters long. 
> 
> My experienced has been that some mail messages can be an issue as some
> mailers don't put hard line breaks. Essentially, the message is just one
> long line. Depending on your mail client and its configuration, you can run
> into issues, but easily fixed as pointed out by Raman.
> 
> Tim
> 
> Steve Holmes writes:
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>  > I had no idea there had been a change; guess that shows how
>  > unobservant I can be.  If the lines are shorter than 80 chars, does
>  > emacs behave more like the past?
>  > 
>  > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32:29AM +0530, Kalyan Mukherjea wrote:
>  > > Hi Raman and list,
>  > > 
>  > > You recommend using Customize to set  line-move-visual to mil.
>  > > 
>  > > I find the Customize interface difficult to use, perhaps because I use
>  > > the somewhat primitive eflite as my DTK_PROGRAM. 
>  > > Would it be okay to manually put in  the following  line in my
>  > > ~/.emacs:
>  > > (setq line-move-visual nil)
>  > > 
>  > > I have a section in my .emacs specifically for emacspeak related
>  > > settings. Putting it there seems to be harmless but then I'm not an
>  > > expert!
>  > > 
>  > > Cheers.
>  > > Kalyan
>  > > 
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> Tim Cross
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