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Re: Emacs 23: next-line and previous-line



I like this because using speakup it just reads the screen line, so this
is better for me, but to each his own -- that's why its a variable.
Emacspeak does not have the readalldoc feature of speakup using the
index markers.


Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote:

> I wondered if it came down to that.  My display is 128 chars wide so
> the wrapping happens less often.  I think I will be putting in that
> option as well.  It does seem like a bad idea to have changed this
> behavior.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:14:09PM +1100, Tim Cross wrote:
> > 
> > Essentially, the difference is that when a long line wraps, the cursor
> > won't just jump to the next 'real' line when you move down. Instead, it
> > will move to the second wrapped section of the line you were already
> > on. The downside from an emacspeak perspective is that the whole line gets
> > read again. . The old behavior would have been for emacs to move to the
> > second real line regardless of how many wrapped lines the first line
> > created. 
> > 
> > To answer your specific question, if the line does not wrap, there is no
> > issue. whether th eline wraps depends on how wide your display is. So, as
> > long as your display is wider than 80 characters, you won't notice anything
> > for lines up to 80 characters long. 
> > 
> > My experienced has been that some mail messages can be an issue as some
> > mailers don't put hard line breaks. Essentially, the message is just one
> > long line. Depending on your mail client and its configuration, you can run
> > into issues, but easily fixed as pointed out by Raman.
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > Steve Holmes writes:
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> >  > I had no idea there had been a change; guess that shows how
> >  > unobservant I can be.  If the lines are shorter than 80 chars, does
> >  > emacs behave more like the past?
> >  > 
> >  > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32:29AM +0530, Kalyan Mukherjea wrote:
> >  > > Hi Raman and list,
> >  > > 
> >  > > You recommend using Customize to set  line-move-visual to mil.
> >  > > 
> >  > > I find the Customize interface difficult to use, perhaps because I use
> >  > > the somewhat primitive eflite as my DTK_PROGRAM. 
> >  > > Would it be okay to manually put in  the following  line in my
> >  > > ~/.emacs:
> >  > > (setq line-move-visual nil)
> >  > > 
> >  > > I have a section in my .emacs specifically for emacspeak related
> >  > > settings. Putting it there seems to be harmless but then I'm not an
> >  > > expert!
> >  > > 
> >  > > Cheers.
> >  > > Kalyan
> >  > > 
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> > -- 
> > Tim Cross
> > tcross@rapttech.com.au
> > 
> > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
> > understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
> > -- 
> > Tim Cross
> > tcross@rapttech.com.au
> > 
> > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they 
> > understand and those who do not understand what they manage.
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