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Re: emacspeak and w3



W3 is now available via ELPA. W3m is not.
wrote:

> Good point re elpa -- that is how I now install most
> packages. However I dont believe w3 or w3m  are available via the
> default GNU  packages archive -- nor have I found them on the
> additional marmalade package archive.
> -- 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> On 5/8/12, David Tseng <davidtseng@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Incidentally, after building w3 and w3m from source in the past, I now
>> take the easy way out by using ELPA. It's worth a look for discovering
>> and quickly trying out packages you may not have previously stumbled
>> upon.
>> 
>> On 5/7/12, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The quick and dirty 'fix' I applied for this werror is to comment out
>>> the two lines from w3-speak.el which require emacspeak-fix-interactive
>>> at cimpile time. This stops the make process from exiting early and
>>> ensures the rest of the *.el files are compiled. It does not appear to
>>> have any dramatic impact.
>>> 
>>> Raman, I looked at your patch from your w3 and I think your right. It
>>> looks like all you changes do is remove some of the excessive
>>> 'padding' w3 was doing when rendering things like lists and
>>> blockquote. On my system, the unmodified version would put boxquote
>>> elements and lists right over on the right hand side - so much so that
>>> blockquotes would end up being rendered as only one or two words per
>>> line. I found that modifying the default.css file to change all margin
>>> settings from 5em to 1em greatly improved things.
>>> 
>>> One remaining and extremely frustrating issue I have is that on some
>>> pages, regardless of style sheet settings, w3 renders the page with
>>> white background and white foreground/text or white background and
>>> light grey text. As someone who actualy finds looking at a screen with
>>> a white background physically painful, this is somewhat frustrating. I
>>> did look at this a while back as it was the main reason I stopped
>>> ujsing w3 and from memory, it is due to a bad interaction with pages
>>> that have either forced a background colour and don't set any
>>> text/foreground colour and/or conflicts between css settings and 'hard
>>> coded' page settings. Maybe it is time to look at it again.
>>> 
>>> I also suspect I have to do some MIME tweaking. When using the epub
>>> feature, it works with some epub titles, but fails with others. In
>>> particular, seems to fail with titles generated primarily for the
>>> kindle. With these titles, instead of opening the content, it asks me
>>> where to same the MIME object. Need to investigate further.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 May 2012 14:09, T. V. Raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> this error has been around for a long time and shouldn't affect anything.
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Bart" == Bart Bunting <bart@ursys.com.au> writes:
>>>>    Bart> Raman, et al, Whilst we are discussing w3 I am seeing
>>>>    Bart> issues when doing a make on the w3 source. It appears
>>>>    Bart> to be related to emacspeak libraries not being found.
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> Having said that w3 itself appears to work even with
>>>>    Bart> the error.
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> Is this normal?
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> I see this both under linux and on my mac.
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> Here is the make error:
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> bart@bit:~/.emacs.d/src/w3$make cd lisp && make w3
>>>>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>>>>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>>>>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>>>>    Bart> -l
>>>>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>>>>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-display.el
>>>>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>>>>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done Wrote w3-display.elc
>>>>    Bart> GNUSDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/gnus/
>>>>    Bart> URLDIR=/usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url/
>>>>    Bart> W3SRCDIR=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./docomp.el
>>>>    Bart> -l
>>>>    Bart> /usr/local/emacs/24.96/share/emacs/24.0.96/lisp/url//url-vars.el
>>>>    Bart> -l ./w3-vars.el -f batch-byte-compile w3-speak.el
>>>>    Bart> uncompressing url-vars.el.gz... uncompressing
>>>>    Bart> url-vars.el.gz...done
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> In toplevel form: w3-speak.el:49:1:Error: Cannot open
>>>>    Bart> load file: emacspeak-fix-interactive make[1]: ***
>>>>    Bart> [w3-speak.elc] Error 1 make: *** [w3] Error 2
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> Cheers
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> Bart
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    Bart> "T.V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>    Bart>
>>>>    >> Tim, Per your suggestion, I have checked in
>>>>    >> emacspeak/tvr/tvr-w3.patch --- the patch was created from
>>>>    >> my local snapshot with git diff origin/master
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> after making sure that git pull -a claimed my local
>>>>    >> snapshot was uptodate.
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> Glancing at the patch -- I dont see anything significant
>>>>    >> that should make w3 work here and not from the git repo.
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> The git repo I am refering to is: git config
>>>>    >> remote.origin.url git://git.sv.gnu.org/w3.git
>>>>    >> --
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> --
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >>
>>>>    >> On 5/7/12, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>    >>> Hi Raman,
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> I've been attempting to get w3 working and while I've
>>>>    >>> finally got it going, it was not trivial.
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> I think part of the problem is that there has been no
>>>>    >>> updates to the w3 repository since May 2008. I know there
>>>>    >>> has been a couple of patches from you and others to fix
>>>>    >>> various bugs, but hunting them down and applying them is
>>>>    >>> not easy. On this basis, I wanted to make a suggestion.
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> Would it be possible for you to do a diff against the
>>>>    >>> current w3 repository code and the version of w3 you are
>>>>    >>> running and put the diffs in a w3-patches directory
>>>>    >>> within the emacspeak distribution. This would make it
>>>>    >>> esier to anyone wanting to run w3 to apply the same
>>>>    >>> patches you have been using. In addition to making it
>>>>    >>> easier for users, it may help in tracking down problems
>>>>    >>> as we will have a common base everyone is working from.
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> regards,
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> Tim
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>> --
>>>>    >>> Tim Cross
>>>>    >>>
>>>>    >>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> --raman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tim Cross
>>> 
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