Re: Emacspeak with eSpeak losing speech on Vinux 4

["T. V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

>From everything I have seen on this thread re espeak behavior, I
suspect that those who are seeing issues are seeing them due to
conflicts between pulse and alsa as usual.  One way to confirm
this is to turn off auditory icons; In cases where pulse causes
audio to degrade, it will typically bite when auditory icons are
on -- since emacspeak makes many, many calls to aplay in short
bursts depending on what you're doing.  
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    Tim> When you lose speech on the netbook, after hitting C-e
    Tim> C-s to restart the espeak server, is it pretty stable
    Tim> then?
    Tim> 
    Tim> I've noticed on netbooks and other devices which are not
    Tim> a resource rich, you can get additional instability,
    Tim> especially when first starting. However, after
    Tim> re-starting the emacspeak speech server, it isn't too
    Tim> bad.
    Tim> 
    Tim> To be honest, on any 32 bit system, I will always use
    Tim> ibmtts/outloud rather than espeak. Outloud I think is a
    Tim> better quality tts and is much better than espeak for
    Tim> emacspeak.
    Tim> 
    Tim> For speech-dispatcher, on 64 bit systems, espeak is
    Tim> really good and I'll use espeak if I don't want to
    Tim> pollute my 64 bit system with a whole pile of 32 bit
    Tim> libraries. While modern linux distros seem to handle
    Tim> mixed 32/64 bit libs, I think sticking with just 64 bit
    Tim> is probably going to reduce the likelihood of problems.
    Tim> 
    Tim> My guess for the difference with your netbook will be
    Tim> due to the lower performance and resources of the
    Tim> netbook.
    Tim> 
    Tim> Tim
    Tim> 
    Tim> 
    Tim> 
    Tim> On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 07:17 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
    Tim> wrote:
    >> In my particular case, I have the following two
    >> situations:
    >> 
    >> I have Vinux 4 64-bit running in a VM. I'm running Emacs24
    >> and Emacspeak 37. I'm using my own version of eSpeak 1.47
    >> that I compiled myself using the runtime option. I did
    >> this to keep from losing the last syllable when using
    >> eSpeak. Further note that I set it up this way before the
    >> eSpeak package in Vinux 4 was updated to also use the
    >> runtime option. I'm running Emacs on the desktop, and I
    >> have no issues whatsoever with eSpeak.
    >> 
    >> On my netbook running Vinux 4 32-bit, I'm running Emacs24
    >> and Emacspeak 37. I'm using the eSpeak that's now shipped
    >> with Vinux 4, which is eSpeak 1.47. I don't have the
    >> situation with the dropped syllables, but I do lose speech
    >> shortly after starting Emacspeak. It doesn't look like the
    >> Emacspeak eSpeak server is crashing. I'm also running
    >> Emacs on the desktop.
    >> 
    >> Vinux 4 is based on Ubuntu 12.04.
    >> 
    >> I'm curious why I get one behavior on one system and
    >> another behavior on the other. One thing I can try is to
    >> compile my own version of eSpeak on my 32-bit netbook, but
    >> I'd like to see if I could use the system wide eSpeak and
    >> eliminate one thing from my to do list every time I
    >> install a new system.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On 05/10/2013 06:17 PM, John Joseph Morgan wrote: > I see
    >> this too with espeak. It seems to go away when I run
    >> emacspeak with espeak under the root user. > I have gnome
    >> started with orca at boot up. Is gnome and orca
    >> interfering somehow with a non-root user's use of espeak?
    >> > John
    >> >
    >> > On May 10, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Tim Cross
    >> <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> You can just use the dmesg command in a terminal.
    >> >>
    >> >> I also see the regular loss of speech with espeak. I
    >> have never been >> able to track down the issue, though I
    >> tend to get distracted with other >> things when I try. I
    >> don't see this crashing with speechd or with espeak >> and
    >> speech-dispatcher generally. It is limited to the
    >> emacspeak espeak >> interface.
    >> >>
    >> >> I find disabling character echo can help a
    >> bit. Otherwise, I've just >> gotten use to hitting C-e C-s
    >> to restart espeak when it stops >> responding.
    >> >>
    >> >> I have noticed that I don't see this issue with the
    >> experiments I've >> done that don't use tcl as the
    >> interface language. So it could be that >> the problem is
    >> in the tcl layer, but this is just more guesswork.
    >> >>
    >> >> Tim
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:50 +1000, Jason White wrote:
    >> >>> Christopher Chaltain <chaltain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> I don't see this file on this system. It's a Ubuntu
    >> based system.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Ubuntu keeps diverging from every other Linux
    >> distribution in a growing >>> variety of ways.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Try /var/log/syslog. I don't have an Ubuntu-based
    >> system so I'm guessing here.
    >> >>>
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