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Re: question about emacspeak-websearch
Though the right thing to do in this case was to delete the lines of
code in question --which should not have been there really speaking in
the first place,
your message about advice was definitely not off topic.
For those who did read and understand Tim's note -
one could have forced emacspeak-websearch to always use w3m with a two
line advice (albeit a hack)--
(defadvice emacspeak-websearch-dispatch (around emacspeak pre act comp
(let ((browse-url-browser-function ...))
Notice that the above neatly configures
browse-url-browser-function to be what ever you want for the duration
of the websearch call.
Tim> Hi Yvonne, Just to clarify something....
>> From your responses, I get the impression you feel your
Tim> question has caused some sort of trouble or something. I just
Tim> wanted to assure you that I certainly didn't feel anything
Tim> similar and apologise if my response was only telling you
Tim> things you already know and came across as condesending or
Tim> something. This certainly was not the intention. Its often
Tim> difficult to know at what level to respond, especially on
Tim> this list where we have such a wide range of
Tim> understanding/ability with respect to emacs and emacspeak.
Tim> Looking back at the thread, I do feel I may have misread what
Tim> your problem was - I don't know if that was because I didn't
Tim> read it closely enough or because your description was not
Tim> clear enough - I suspect it was a combination of both. The
Tim> main thing which prompted me to respond was that it was
Tim> obvious you had attempted to find a solution and that is
Tim> exactly the type of poster we want to encourage, so I thought
Tim> I'd suggest a couple of possible things to check out and some
Tim> warnings regarding issues you may not have been aware of.
Tim> I hope this experience does not discourage you from using
Tim> this resource as its important and helps build up a valuable
Tim> archive of information others can use. I hope we will see you
Tim> on this list again!
>>>>> "Yvonne" == Yvonne Thomson <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
Yvonne> At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:05:27 -0700, T V Raman wrote:
>>> Those ines of code in emacspeak-websearch deserved to be
>>> deleted and are now gone.
Yvonne> Thanks for that.
>>> However your assertion that its presence meant that you
>>> couldn't use emacspeak-websearch unless w3 was installed was
>>> incorrect-- it set up browse-url to use W3 if and only if W3
>>> was installed.
Yvonne> *sigh* I didn't say that. Or at least, if I did, I didn't
Yvonne> mean that. I've been using emacspeak for more than enough
Yvonne> years to be aware of the w3 vs w3m problem. I.e. w3 has
Yvonne> the features but, on my setup, takes way, way too long to
Yvonne> display web pages. Therefore, it's a productivity trade
Yvonne> off for me. My only argument was, and is still, that I
Yvonne> did *not* want emacspeak to change my browse-url setting
Yvonne> unless I asked it to or I changed it myself. My primary
Yvonne> web browser is w3m. I will occasionally use w3 if, and
Yvonne> that's usually a big if, I need the advanced features,
Yvonne> hence it's installed. As far as I know, the xslt stuff is
Yvonne> still in the emacspeak-w3 file anyway, therefore it's
Yvonne> messy not to have both browsers installed. I had no
Yvonne> intention of causing all this trouble, I swear I didn't. I
Yvonne> think my ability to explain myself must've been thrown out
Yvonne> the window in the last couple of days or something.
>>> Note that some of emacspeak-websearch's functionality --in
>>> fact quite a lot of its advanced functionality-- may not work
>>> with w3m
Yvonne> That's probably the case, yes. For good or for evil,
Yvonne> though, I don't use most of emacspeak-websearch's
Yvonne> functionallity. I would say 99.9% of my use of it involves
Yvonne> nothing more than calling google with a single keystroke
Yvonne> combination. About the only advanced functionality
Yvonne> involved there seems to be the ability of emacspeak to
Yvonne> jump down to the search results, bypassing the stuff up
Yvonne> the top. Since I really don't find going down a couple of
Yvonne> lines to get to my search results all that inconvenient, I
Yvonne> don't think that's exactly something I'll miss.
Yvonne> I honestly think next time, I'll just comment out the
Yvonne> lines, and not say a thing about it. It was a minor
Yvonne> inconvenience to me that I asked about the reason for,
Yvonne> that's all. I'll try, very very hard, to make my
Yvonne> explanation clearer next time if I need to ask such a
Yvonne> question again.
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