I installed lois and chromevox from the chrome store. Running version Chromium 18.0.1025.168 from ubuntu 12.04, but no luck getting it working yet. Not sue how to verify nacl support - looks like it was added in v14 and it is listed/mentioned in the copyright file of this version, but no luck yet. On another note, seem to have run itno a bug with emacs 24 url, so now I cannot follow links in w3. Seems to be losing the 'host' value somewhere, so throws a stingp nil error. Was working with a version of emacs from earlier in the week, so probably just a temporary hitch. Was working through your mm-customize.el file and noticed something which I found a bit confusing. In it, you have some tests under the mm--inline-media-tests setting of the form (lambda (&rest ignore) (or mm-text-html-renderer mm-text-html-renderer)) I don't understand the or statement. It has the same varible for both paths - seems like a weird thing to do, unless there is something I'm missing? I would have thought just returning the var would achieve the same result? Just curious really as I always like to try and understand bits of elisp I come across. Tim On 12 May 2012 13:05, T. V. Raman <email@example.com> wrote: > nds good. > > My own choice for general purpose browsing is Chrome with > chromevox loaded -- give that a shot. > > You'll need to: > > 1. Install ChromeVox and the Lois voice from the Chrome Web > Store; > 2. Ensure that your Chrome has nacl support. > > Eventually I'd like to use Chrome's remote debugging API to > connect emacs to Chrome --- and do the following: > > Use ChromeVox to work with the general purpose Web. > > 2. Use the remote port connection between Emacs and Chrome to get > Web content into Emacs so you can further manipulate it as > desired. All of this is a fair bit of work. > >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > Tim> I could be way off the mark, but my thoughts were that > Tim> the w3 rendering code could be a worthwhile reference > Tim> wrt rendering, but most of it would need to be > Tim> updated/modified - same with the css module. I would > Tim> like to see something with very separate and independent > Tim> modules that each have a well defined interface that are > Tim> all hooked up together to provide a usable browser AND > Tim> provide a useful set of utilities that could be used for > Tim> other processin and provide an interesting tool set for > Tim> experimentation and personal customization. > Tim> > Tim> It is probably this last part, experimentation and > Tim> customization for specific tasks I find most appealing > Tim> about w3. For general browsing, I am finding it > Tim> increasingly necessary to use something like firefox or > Tim> chromium. However, as the epub stuff you did shows, > Tim> there is still a lot of potential for a reliable text > Tim> browser with a very close integration with emacs that > Tim> will allow us to manipulate components with custom > Tim> elisp. > Tim> > Tim> Tim > Tim> > Tim> On 11 May 2012 13:23, T. V. Raman > Tim> <email@example.com> wrote: > >> shr doesn't use any of the W3 rendering code. > >> > >> Unfortunately the parse structure that the W3 parser > >> builds is not exactly the same shape as that returned by > >> libxml -- so you'd have to do a bit of work before the W3 > >> renderer can eat the libxml parse tree. But it shouldn't > >> be a huge amount of work. > >> > >>>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Cross <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > >> Tim> Now that is very interesting. Will certainly be > >> checking Tim> out shr - this is exactly along the same > >> lines as I was Tim> thinking wrt moving w3 forward and > >> helping to ensure it Tim> doesn't end up dying of bit > >> rot. Tim> Tim> Since emacs added the interface to > >> libxml, I've been Tim> wondering about how much work > >> this would take, so I'm Tim> quite excited to find that > >> thiswork has already started. Tim> Tim> Tim Tim> > >> Tim> On 11 May 2012 03:47, T.V. Raman > >> <email@example.com> Tim> wrote: >> From an > >> Emacspeak perspective, W3 will always trump W3M >> in > >> terms of features --- w3m in emacs is nice, but the >> > >> integration leaves a lot to be desired -- in that emacs/w3 > >> >> only gets its hands on the content after w3m itself has > >> >> done the bulk of the rendering. >> >> In the best > >> of all worlds, the parsing and dom >> construction > >> would happen in the native layer --- and the >> > >> rendering happen in the lisp layer. Module shr is a >> > >> beginning to that end --- in that it uses libxml to do the > >> >> parsing -- >> >> On 5/9/12, Robert D. Crawford > >> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: >>> "Tim Cross" > >> <email@example.com> writes: >>> >>>> The really nice > >> thing is that since machines have gotten >>>> so much > >> faster in the past few years, the slower >>>> rendering > >> time of w3 compared to w3m is pretty much >>>> > >> unnoticeable except on really large html files. >>> > >> >>> I've not used w3m in such a long time. I've preferred > >> w3 >>> since I first used it. Glad to hear I'm not > >> really >>> missing out on speed. >>> >>>> thanks > >> again, you have made my day! >>> >>> You are quite > >> welcome. Glad to have been of assistance. >>> >>> > >> rdc >>> -- >>> Robert D. Crawford >>> > >> firstname.lastname@example.org >>> >>> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your > >> >>> address on the emacspeak list send mail to >>> > >> "email@example.com" with a subject of >>> > >> "unsubscribe" or "help". >>> >>> >> >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your > >> >> address on the emacspeak list send mail to >> > >> "firstname.lastname@example.org" with a subject of >> > >> "unsubscribe" or "help". >> Tim> Tim> Tim> > >> Tim> -- Tim Cross > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, --raman > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, --raman > Tim> > Tim> > Tim> > Tim> -- Tim Cross > > -- > Best Regards, > --raman -- Tim Cross ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the emacspeak list or change your address on the emacspeak list send mail to "email@example.com" with a subject of "unsubscribe" or "help".
If you have questions about this archive or had problems using it, please send mail to:firstname.lastname@example.org No Soliciting!
Emacspeak List Archive | 2010 | 2009 | 2008 | 2007 | 2006 | 2005 | 2004 | 2003 | 2002 | 2001 | 2000 | 1999 | 1998 | Pre 1998
Emacspeak Files | Emacspeak Blog | Search the archive